Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

With the T-50, Russian Jet Fighters Are Back ... And It's None Too Soon
The Mil & Aero Blog ^ | June 2010 | John Keller, Editor-in-chief of Military & Aerospace Electronics magazine

Posted on 06/18/2010 2:01:19 PM PDT by EnjoyingLife

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-29 last
To: ZX12R

“How many do they have in military service?”

Probably about as many as Iran has nukes.

Today.


21 posted on 06/18/2010 3:08:01 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: gop4lyf

” who they be telling anyone”

India and other purchasers.


22 posted on 06/18/2010 3:08:54 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: EnjoyingLife

Marketing hype.


23 posted on 06/18/2010 3:11:30 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: John Valentine

Not stealthy. The Russians themselves say this. They “chose” not to have stealth (it was too expensive).

These are not designed to go up against Raptors.


24 posted on 06/18/2010 3:18:19 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: EnjoyingLife
John Keller DORK!!


25 posted on 06/18/2010 3:23:29 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Born to Conserve
These are not designed to go up against Raptors.

from http://warfare.ru

Designed to compete against the F-22 in traditional Beyond Visual Range (BVR) and Within Visual Range (WVR) air combat, the PAK-FA shares all of the key fifth generation attributes until now unique to the F-22 - stealth, supersonic cruise, thrust vectoring, highly integrated avionics and a powerful suite of active and passive sensors. While the PAK-FA firmly qualifies as a fifth generation design, it has two further attributes absent in the extant F-22 design. The first is extreme agility, resulting from advanced aerodynamic design, exceptional thrust/weight ratio performance and three dimensional thrust vectoring integrated with an advanced digital flight control system. The second attribute is exceptional combat persistence, the result of a 25,000 lb internal fuel load. The internal and external weapon payload are likely to be somewhat larger, though comparable to those of the F-22A.

[..]

While the basic shaping observed on this first prototype of the PAK-FA will deny it the critical all-aspect stealth performance of the F-22 in BVR air combat and deep penetration, its extreme manoeuvrability/controllability design features, which result in extreme agility, give it the potential to become the most lethal and survivable fighter ever built for air combat engagements.

[..]

The tactical impact of a mature production PAK-FA is therefore a loss of the overwhelming advantage provided until now by the F-22A Raptor. Flown against the PAK-FA, a decisive outcome can only be guaranteed by numerical superiority of the F-22A force in theatre.

For what it's worth. And, you can bet there would be a LOT more of these babys in theatre than there would be F-22s, given the direction toward gutting US military capability from inside.

26 posted on 06/18/2010 3:32:01 PM PDT by John Valentine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Texas Fossil
"...I doubt Ivan has anything to touch it on maneuverability or weaponry."

Probably wrong, or mostly so.

Their agile aircraft of current production is high, but matched or bettered by F-22. T-50 can be expected to up the ante again.

Weaponry...depends on apples or oranges. Air-to-ground favors F-22 due to technology, air-to-air favors them due to better missiles.

Two big pluses for F-22 are stealth and AESA radar's capability as a weapon.

However, there is the reticence of US to forward deploy high dollar assets, which the F-22 certainly is.

27 posted on 06/18/2010 3:40:07 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Joe 6-pack

you owe us an apology ... this CAN’T REALLY be the guy’s photo ...


28 posted on 06/18/2010 4:09:06 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Angels and Ministers of Grace, Defend Us ....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: GalaxieFiveHundred
personally, i like the wide separation of engines ala the Tomcat as there is less chance of one consuming the other if it fails be it on its own or due to battle damage...
29 posted on 06/18/2010 7:38:41 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-29 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson