Posted on 06/14/2010 4:09:29 PM PDT by jazusamo
There’ll be no Draft, period.
Ping!
He very well may be, but because of the economy we have today, the real effects of this decision won't be felt for some time, probably years.
There is a wide divide between what people say, and what people do. There really isn't any job market for people to move into. So, I'll wager they'll tough it out, at least for a few years. After that, who knows what will happen.
Agreed, it won’t happen right away, like you say it will take years.
Where it’s going to really hurt the Marine Corps and Army is in the NCO Cadre, IMO.
the left has avidly been pushing for it, usually under the guise that the all volunteer military is made up mostly of poor and uneducated people. That, of course, doesn't mesh with reality, but since when are liberals concerned about facts and reality?
I suspect that, in part, their real motivation is that they believe that the anti Vietnam war protests were made possible because people resisted the draft forcing them into a war zone. They can't make the same arguments when the military is all volunteer.
I think the opposite needs to happen.
Instead of the religious, Christian, and conservative members of the military not reenlisting, we should ENCOURAGE Christian, religious, and conservative people to enlist and reenlist. The Demonrats want to Cloward-Piven the military so its destroyed. This DADT thing is just the latest incarnation of that.
Instead, the more Christians and conservatives in the military, who obviously will make the homosexual agenda crowd uncomfortable, the more WE can Cloward-Piven THEM. We can force a religious crisis in the military to open up debate on whether freedom of religion, enshrined in the bill of rights is superior to freedom of sexuality, which is not enshrined in the bill of rights or not.
We can win this, but we can’t retreat. We have our ammo, we just need to shoot.
Ditto. Earlier today was posted a piece noting that 90% of Philadelphia youth are unsuitable for the draft. A draft is probably impractical and especially inefficient.
This year’s bill also includes allowing abortions on military bases, which has previously been illegal.
Not in this economy.
Under Obama, recruitment and retention rates are all being met. Aspiring enlistees are being turned away and many wishing to re-enlist are being refused for disqualifiers that would've been waived back in '03-04. Re-enlistment bonuses have vanished. People today re-enlist just to keep their job! People are getting separated for infractions that just a few years ago would've gotten them a wrist-slapping. The military is kicking people out for being overweight, failing to advance, having bad credit, DUIs, and on and on. Advancement rates are locked up because the higher-ranking service members aren't going anywhere if they have a choice in the matter. They can't find jobs on the outside so they stick around as an E-6 until they retire.
Draft? Give me a break. Everyone knew DADT would be repealed under the next Democrat administration yet today's military is enjoying the historically unprecedented ability to turn away legions of motivated volunteers while enlisting, retaining and promoting only the top candidates.
I don’t honestly see what would be so wrong with the draft.
It would do our young people good.
How old are you?
It would be a disaster. That is why Democrats want it so much.
You have it all wrong. It isn’t about getting inner city (read minorities) in the services. It is about getting people with intelligence in there (real mostly caucasian) and then sacrifice them in pointless endeavors. Glad my son volunteered after college. NFW he’ll serve again under this communist POS.
“A draft is probably impractical and especially nefficient.”
Never let it be said that ineffiency was a deterrent to the government’s radical agenda.
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The draft was only a disaster because the people who came of age during Vietnam were spoiled brats who did not want to serve their country and who instead wanted to spit on soldiers and spend the whole time, well, those who are older than me remember the 60s well enough.
I think its interesting that as long as the WWII generation was running the country we didn’t see much in the way of offshoring of jobs. WWII management had fought for their country.
The minute the boomers took over, it was offshoring season, because most of those boomer managers were the same ones who were able to get to that point because they went to college instead of Vietnam.
You’re painting with a mighty broad brush about the spoiled brats. The Army had a problem before Vietnam with many draftees, I know.
Once our military became an all volunteer organization it went on to become a truly better organization and I know about that also, our son was an Army Sgt. in Gulf War I.
I agree that there are many who’d benefit from a military stint but the overall quality will suffer some, IMO.
I was 10years old in 1965 the same year my older brother finished high school. I can still remember him and his friends sitting around our kitchen table filling out papers for the Army. They were laughing and having a great time, talking like they were all super men or something. I can still remember when they came back and it was so quiet. It is just something I will never forget.
You are correct, my son wanted to enlist in the Marines, 10 mo. minimum wait list, absolutely no waivers, even traffic tickets would cause them to say no! He enlisted in the Army Infantry, they were releasing guys left and right even during reception! I couldn’t believe it, I thought once you signed the papers that was it.
The World War II military was the draftee military, the Vietnam military was overwhelmingly volunteers, those “spoiled brats” gave us 9.4 million veterans and are currently still serving in large numbers.
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