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Abby's Odyssey: In Defense of the Sunderlands (Should they be blamed for this dangerous adventure?)
American Thinker ^ | 06/13/2010 | Tim Gordon

Posted on 06/14/2010 6:58:42 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: hennie pennie
Homeschoolers I've known have always been deeply concerned about extracurricular and appropriate social activities for their kids

My cousin, who homeschooler her kids ( both now Dean's listers in College ), actually coordinates with other homeschoolers in her area where they do social activities (sports, field trips, etc.) together.

And note -- a lot of homeschoolers are also church goers. Churches are places where young people get to socialize and have fellowship with other kids. My cousin's kids go on camps and missions trip during summer with other kids.

Lack of socialization is just an excuse by those who look at homseschooled kids with disdain. The reality is --- these kids DO SOCIALIZE -- but with kids who do not influence them to do bad things.
81 posted on 06/14/2010 8:04:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

You can do a lot of growing up sailing solo, without getting other people to pay for a boat so you can try to sail around the world and set an age record that no one recognizes anyways...

Any sympathy I had for them evaporated when they asked for donations to recover ‘Abby’s boat’ while saying there was no way they would pay the Aussies anything for the rescue of their daughter!


82 posted on 06/14/2010 8:04:42 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: Tax-chick
There is a great deal of ground between sitting around doing nothing, and doing something foolishly dangerous that, even if completed safely, would not really add any value to the world.

You said it perfectly!

83 posted on 06/14/2010 8:05:16 AM PDT by beckysueb (January 20, 2013. When Obama becomes just a skidmark on the panties of American history.)
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To: Mr Rogers
Any sympathy I had for them evaporated when they asked for donations to recover ‘Abby’s boat’

Hang on ... It's DONATIONS we're talking about, NOT TAXES.

I personally do not object to anything done voluntarily.
84 posted on 06/14/2010 8:06:54 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: DesertRhino
Brave girl, good family, daring greatly, successful business,, It’s an American fairy tale.

I hate to break it to you but they're broke. However, never fear! Coming to a TV near you! The Adventures in Sunderland!

85 posted on 06/14/2010 8:07:37 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: hennie pennie

The homeschooled kids I have known have a full social life outside of the corrupt public schools. Its up to the parents to see that the kids have a social life, too. A lot of them get their social life from church activities, etc. Home schooled kids usually get a better education and are more well adjusted then public school kids. And they are not indoctrinated to be little commies.


86 posted on 06/14/2010 8:11:21 AM PDT by beckysueb (January 20, 2013. When Obama becomes just a skidmark on the panties of American history.)
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To: beckysueb

I home-school our daughter. That isn’t crazy.

Now if I encouraged my 12 year old daughter to hike alone along the Mexico/Arizona border to become the youngest girl to hike the border alone, and I had her do it in summer, and had a reality show planned to document it...THAT would be crazy! In fact, that would be time for someone to step in before I killed my daughter!


87 posted on 06/14/2010 8:11:35 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes, donations - to recover ‘Abby’s boat’ for her, not to reimburse the Australian government, and the french vessel that went out of its way to save their daughter. I consider that misplaced priorities.


88 posted on 06/14/2010 8:12:58 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: SeekAndFind

These parents are lower than whale poop. I wish the authority that recognizes records in sailing would make the boat put up bond for any cost related to rescue or admin expense for a country. Plus require 18 years old as the entry level.

I am so frosted about this. Sending your kid to her potential death is child abuse in the first degree. The kid failed, was behind schedule, put in for repairs and was then advised by her father to continue the march. Put those parents in a Dingy in the middle of the Southern Ocean in Winter. Let’s see what hero’s they are. That girl was facing weather worse that what crashed her for the next two months.

Honor the rescuers. The fishing boat crew that got her lost production, and the captain, almost his life. Fell into the water. I’m hot about this.

Check out real sailors comments, post #2944.

http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showtopic=102689&st=2925


89 posted on 06/14/2010 8:14:12 AM PDT by Pit1 (Not illegal immigrants. They are CRIMINAL BORDER CROSSERS.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

“Our ancestors didn’t have time to be kids at 16. Life expectancy now is 77.7 years. Comparing her with 16 year olds from our history is misleading.”

Following that logic, then we shouldn’t expect our children to behave as responsibly as a 16 year old from that era, until age 30. The better way to see longer life span, is not as a reason to extend childhood, but that if will become that capable at 16, how much more life you can get out of 77 years.


90 posted on 06/14/2010 8:15:54 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Mr Rogers

I agree. I think homeschooling is the best way to educate kids. However it requires work and patience, something a lot of people don’t want to do. They would rather send them to school and get them out of their hair. Some are just snobs who think the public schools are the only ones smart enough to teach your kids. Good for you for homeschooling.


91 posted on 06/14/2010 8:18:40 AM PDT by beckysueb (January 20, 2013. When Obama becomes just a skidmark on the panties of American history.)
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To: DesertRhino
Following that logic, then we shouldn’t expect our children to behave as responsibly as a 16 year old from that era, until age 30. The better way to see longer life span, is not as a reason to extend childhood, but that if will become that capable at 16, how much more life you can get out of 77 years.

I never said otherwise. I simply stated the way things are.

92 posted on 06/14/2010 8:19:18 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I wonder if the Sunderlands attend a church? The MSM certainly hasn't seemed to locate any friends, and all the quotes from neighbors focus on the issue that nobody ever sees the family anywhere in the neighborhood.
93 posted on 06/14/2010 8:19:19 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: Pit1

Great post.


94 posted on 06/14/2010 8:19:40 AM PDT by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

“Yeah. I read 30 to 40%. I can’t imagine the heartbreak”

That was basically the plot setup of that movie “The Yearling”. Kid was the sole survivor of mom’s 4 children. It was a believeable plotline back then.


95 posted on 06/14/2010 8:19:46 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: hennie pennie

“I think that Child Protective Services should assume custody of her, and check into the safety of her siblings.”

Normally, I ignore such calls for expansion of the long arm of “Da Gooberment”, but yours simply is so egregious as to justify wasting valuable time on a worthless postulate.

You appear to be making an emotion driven call for the State to intervene in the private affairs/decisions of a family of relatively high achievement individuals.

On what basis do you justify allowing a mere social science major to oversee and/or countermand a parent?

Belay that last!

Since when did you accept principles of communism? The child is, after all, the responsibility of the parent in the American system


96 posted on 06/14/2010 8:20:15 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Enjoy your participation trophy.


97 posted on 06/14/2010 8:20:42 AM PDT by OHelix
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To: Tax-chick

Based on recommendations by some co-workers who were in the Coast Guard, I suggested that my son (16 yrs old) investigate their options for paying for college. It looked like they had some great programs.

How does your daughter like the Coast Guard?


98 posted on 06/14/2010 8:21:00 AM PDT by Fletcher J
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To: DJ MacWoW
>>>> "The American Sailing Association did NOT endorse this trip." <<<<

Remember years back when legislation had to be passed about the minimum age of pilots -- because all the children's ages kept getting younger & younger & younger in attempts to achieve cross-country flight records?

99 posted on 06/14/2010 8:22:15 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: DesertRhino

I’ve been doing my genealogy and a lot of little ones disappear in the census in a 10 year span.


100 posted on 06/14/2010 8:23:05 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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