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Just How Bad Is The Deepwater Horizon Disaster? (Oil leaking down hole, weakening seafloor?)
BSAlert ^ | 6/11/10

Posted on 06/13/2010 11:45:27 PM PDT by LibWhacker

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1 posted on 06/13/2010 11:45:28 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Nuke the sumbich.


2 posted on 06/13/2010 11:49:52 PM PDT by historyrepeatz
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To: LibWhacker

The news is grim, according to this guy. I kept waiting for him to offer a soulution, as he seems to be knowledgable about what is going on. But he did not, is that because there is none?


3 posted on 06/14/2010 12:03:04 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Smokin' Joe

Talk about grim. Any thoughts from resident experts?


4 posted on 06/14/2010 12:03:26 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: LibWhacker

I think these assesments are hysterical. When the Top Kill was being attempted, there was an opinion expressed on “The Oil Drum” that it was doomed to failure because the flow was too vigorous, and would prevent the injection of the “mud”. This seemed to be correct, as BP later stated that only a third or so of the “mud” was going in, and most of it was coming out of the riser. I don’t know how we get from there to all these subsurface issues.

Being of a “conservative” temperament, I was inclined to give BP a lot of leeway, but I remain puzzled by their actions on the “capping” which is stil in place. There was much made of the diamond saw and the precision cut it would make, but then when it jammed they used the giant snippers. What the hell? How can you have any confidence in such a free-flowing program?

Well, there it sits. But I don’t see anything that tells me the issue is anything other than the oil coming out of the top of the BOP.


5 posted on 06/14/2010 12:03:53 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: historyrepeatz

Wouldn’t that open up a quarter mile wide vent in the sea floor?


6 posted on 06/14/2010 12:04:12 AM PDT by TigersEye ("Flotilla" means "pirate ships running supplies to terrorists.")
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To: dr_lew

Bp has already admitted that the well casing is breached. That means there isn’t going to be any capping it.


7 posted on 06/14/2010 12:05:26 AM PDT by chris37
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To: dr_lew; LibWhacker

Hysterical? No they are an accurate assessment. It is only the reality deniers who find the statements hysterical.

I’m not saying you are that because I don’t know enough about you, but what he is saying about this well, the well bore, casing etc is right on.

BP has known they are in a race against time from day one.


8 posted on 06/14/2010 12:13:30 AM PDT by valkyry1
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To: rawhide

You’re asking the wrong guy. I just don’t know. The author certainly doesn’t sound very optimistic about it, does he? I hope he’s a loon. Because it seems almost inconceivable what kind of damage a wide-open direct hole to the deposit could do, one that apparently would be eroded and get larger with each passing week.


9 posted on 06/14/2010 12:22:00 AM PDT by LibWhacker (America awake!)
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To: LibWhacker

Some answers, good discussion here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2533938/posts
(same topic)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2533537/posts
(related topic)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2533831/posts
(thread side tracked to the oil spill down thread)


10 posted on 06/14/2010 12:24:16 AM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: chris37

I’ve heard that, but I’m unsure of the implications. Of course, they weren’t anywhere near attempting an actual “cap” or sealing of well. I referred to the current configuration as a “cap” because I forget what the technical name is. It looks like a cap, but it is just a hood over the opening which is not sealed, and they have not ever had any plans for making a true “cap” at the top of the BOP.

To me the most immediate question is, how much did they sacrifice by abandoning the precision cut of the riser? People are saying now that the flow out of the cut and covered riser is greater than it was out of the collapsed riser, even though BP is announcing fairly large recovery rates from the captured flow. It’s all very confusing.


11 posted on 06/14/2010 12:24:43 AM PDT by dr_lew
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Looking at the live webcam, it does look like the well head is leaning over a little more than I remember it the other day. However, I don’t see this “inclinometer” he talked about in the article.


12 posted on 06/14/2010 12:31:40 AM PDT by LibWhacker (America awake!)
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To: valkyry1
I’m not saying you are that because I don’t know enough about you, but what he is saying about this well, the well bore, casing etc is right on.

I can't picture it. The whole focus has been the effluent from the top of the BOP, which continues, even though some of it is being captured. Suppose they could capture all of it: is there more effluent from the sea floor? Some commenters are saying they can discern it in some of the ROV imagery, but I don't think it rivals the continuing plume from the top of the BOP.

13 posted on 06/14/2010 12:33:43 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: LibWhacker

2012 afterall?


14 posted on 06/14/2010 12:38:23 AM PDT by RC one (WHAT!!!!)
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To: Natural Born 54

Thanks. Browsing through them now.


15 posted on 06/14/2010 12:39:00 AM PDT by LibWhacker (America awake!)
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To: LibWhacker

The inclination of the BOP looked bad to me the first time I saw it in the ROV imagery. I assumed that the great length and mass of the riser dragged it down, and I wondered how much this disrupted its function. Presumably a lot.

I just keep wondering why? Why did it happen? I’m thinking that it was just a huge blowout, but in that case, why didn’t they see it coming? It’s just a terrible lapse, any way you look at it, but like the song says, “It’s me, it’s me, it’s me, Oh Lord, standin’ in the need of prayer.”


16 posted on 06/14/2010 12:42:32 AM PDT by dr_lew
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I think the best that can be said now is : we don’t know if the the well lining is damaged and if so how far. The rest of this scenario follows or doesn’t on that fact.

There’s some serious research ships working it now. I only hope the government lets them report their findings unfiltered.

In the meantime, no matter what the case, we need every possible resource, including the Dutch, collecting as much oil as possible. All the stops should be pulled out on attacking the output until we know what’s really going on.


17 posted on 06/14/2010 12:42:44 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: LibWhacker

Bookmark


18 posted on 06/14/2010 12:47:42 AM PDT by Popman (Obama Presidential Timber: Worm Eaten Balsa Wood)
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To: saganite
Basically, the relief wells have held the most promise from the moment the BOP failed. They work from the bottom up if they can connect. The only viable alternative will be for BP to plug the well, with the casing string in bad shape there is likely no way to produce the well.

Again, though, I think perspective has been lost by lack of historical knowledge. The Ixtoc was a challenge, even for Red Adair, and they had to do some 'inventing' to get that one shut in. Rushing the relief wells only invites another foul-up. They'll get there when they get there.

19 posted on 06/14/2010 12:58:46 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: historyrepeatz

“Nuke the sumbich.”

Wouldn’t be prudent....


20 posted on 06/14/2010 1:05:17 AM PDT by BlessingsofLiberty (Obama: "President Tarball" (chris37))
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