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Senator Hutchison cool to SpaceX's Falcon 9 launch; concerns remain about Obama NASA policy
Examiner.com ^ | June 5, 8:25 AM | Mark Whittington

Posted on 06/05/2010 5:40:57 PM PDT by tricky_k_1972

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I am probably one of the bigger supporters of NASA around here, but I must say that the comments from the Republican Senator from Texas pretty much disgust me.

I know she is trying to protect the jobs of here constituents, but we as conservatives are suppose to like it when a Private company takes away Government bureaucracy.

I do not like the language she uses here either,

"This first successful test flight of SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket is a belated sign that efforts to develop modest commercial space cargo capabilities are showing some promising signs.

Belated, really, none of those Guvment programs were Belated, they all came in on time and on budget, you really want to go there.

It pretty much disgusts me when the suposed Right uses Lefty arguments and tries for a little government protectionism.

Shame Sen Hutchison, Shame, maybe you should do a little more looking toward helping grow those private industry jobs by lowering their taxes and amending the UN Space Treaty then protecting jobs that come at the expense of the American taxpayers good money at the point of a gun.

And I support NASA, NUTS!

1 posted on 06/05/2010 5:40:57 PM PDT by tricky_k_1972
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To: tricky_k_1972

Liberals wouldn’t like the free market taking over for the government.


2 posted on 06/05/2010 5:42:50 PM PDT by Grunthor
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“that it will take a billion dollars in government money to configure the Falcon 9 and the Dragon space craft for human space flight.”

So it will take a billion dollars to get this company so they can get ready to accept a few billion more.

If they want to be successful as a private industry then they should compete as a private industry. Not on the govt teat.


3 posted on 06/05/2010 5:43:29 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: tricky_k_1972
Apologies for the senator. She shut STFU.

She will hear from me. Again. Not that it will do any good.

/johnny

4 posted on 06/05/2010 5:44:36 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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"I am probably one of the bigger supporters of NASA around here, but I must say that the comments from the Republican Senator from Texas pretty much disgust me. "

I echo everything you've said. I saw Hutchison's comments yesterday, and they SHOCKED me. What happened to the Republican principles that used to celebrate private enterprise?

Look, I'm not a fan of Musk. Tesla, and some of his movie ventures annoy the crap out of me. But, he's got just as much right to compete in the free market as anyone. If Tesla is successful, as unlikely as that may be, more power to him.

And, it's true that SpaceX gives Obama a convenient "out" for the mess he's made of NASA. But, you can't tear down a surging private business just because it might help Obama down the road, especially because that private business is driving down costs in a way the HUGE government bureaucracy never could.

Musk is irritating, and strange and probably a full-bore leftists, but he's a genius with a strong record of success in private enterprise. We should give SpaceX the chance to succeed, or fail.

5 posted on 06/05/2010 5:46:53 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: Grunthor

Personally I doubt these private companies will be private for very long. Every corporation that come in contact with Obama ends up under investigation and under control.


6 posted on 06/05/2010 5:47:40 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: tricky_k_1972

Join the dark side and support JPL.


7 posted on 06/05/2010 5:48:39 PM PDT by kingu (Favorite Sticker: Lost hope, and Obama took my change.)
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To: tricky_k_1972

Hutchison has not, is not and will never be a conservative. By all rights she should be off the scene because she ran against Perry in the Gov. primary. It’ll be happy day when she (and Cornin for that matter) are no longer in office.


8 posted on 06/05/2010 5:49:55 PM PDT by TheZMan (Just secede and get it over with. No love lost on either side. Cya.)
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What the hell is this woman's problem? It's not like several of NASA's early efforts didn't blow up on the launch pad f'r chrissakes, and three early astronauts weren't incinerated in their capsule.

I would like to see NASA continue with a rational program and goals as well, but disparaging SpaceX is just stupid.

9 posted on 06/05/2010 5:51:49 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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"If they want to be successful as a private industry then they should compete as a private industry. Not on the govt teat."

Just like Rockwell, Boeing, General Dynamics or any number of private companies have been able to grow without outrageous government subsidies and development contracts through the years? /s

While there is a robust commercial demand for LEO capability, the lion's share of that demand still comes from the US government. It only makes sense from a tax-payer perspective that a responsible government would look to the private marketplace to pare down costs, something that has eluded NASA all these yeras. If you look at SpaceX ability to perform the last 6 years, no NASA program has come close to their record of achievement. They project that they'll be able to provide LEO at $1200 per kilo. That's simply amazing.

10 posted on 06/05/2010 5:52:17 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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Look at the SpaceX launch manifest on their website. Looks to me like they are doing more than just suckling on the government teat, they have a number of private and foreign payloads to deliver to LEO and GTO over the next few years.

And more to the point, in just a few years of development, they have overtaken the Russians in lift efficiency. The fact that they ignited the rocket engines, shut them down, corrected a problem, and reinitiated the launch clock in just a few hours shows that their command and control exceeds that of NASA.

If SpaceX can deliver payloads more efficiently than NASA or the Russians, give them props.

11 posted on 06/05/2010 5:53:29 PM PDT by mike70
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To: driftdiver

Thats an effective Conservative argument, what the Republican Senator from Texas is using is a Left wing Liberal argument, that is more what I have a problem with here.

It goes along some of the lines I hear Conservatives Bashing Obama with, “Why isn’t he doing something”, NO That is not the tack we take, we do not want everybody relying Uncle Sugar Big Government coming in like superman to save us all, we want people to rely on THEMSELVES.

Conservative should stick to principled Conservative arguments.


12 posted on 06/05/2010 5:57:21 PM PDT by tricky_k_1972 (Putting on Tinfoil hat and heading for the bomb shelter.)
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If I were in Texas I would not vote for Hutchinson. She’s unreliable and too tied to the special interests within the Republican RINO party.

Having said that, I would never trust president 0 nor the Democrats in congress. Another poster commented that zero would either control the company or destroy it. True.

I wonder if this company is using solar panels or wind for propulsion? More, where will the current funds for NASA be going now that 0bama wants to shut it down? Lower taxes? I doubt it.

Hutchinson aside, nobody can trust one single thing the Democrats are doing or proposing to do. They could care less about space travel. Their only goal is money and power and this would be one more avenue to get it.


13 posted on 06/05/2010 6:03:34 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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The Texas witch is already in outer space.
14 posted on 06/05/2010 6:05:58 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: hinckley buzzard

“It’s not like several of NASA’s early efforts didn’t blow up on the launch pad f’r chrissakes, and three early astronauts weren’t incinerated in their capsule.”

Certainly, so why go back and start at the beginning.


15 posted on 06/05/2010 6:29:12 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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“Just like Rockwell, Boeing, General Dynamics or any number of private companies have been able to grow without outrageous government subsidies and development contracts through the years? /s”

Sure, so you’re going to pay a new company to reinvent what those companies had 30 years ago.


16 posted on 06/05/2010 6:29:55 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: tricky_k_1972

Aren’t these SpaceX guys big RAT donors? They’ll get some contracts and some money then take production off shore.


17 posted on 06/05/2010 7:30:21 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Flip Both Houses)
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Which of these piglet welfare case aerospace giants has offered to provide this service at the same price as SpaceX, with a 30 year old system or a new one for that matter?

Which one do you work for?


18 posted on 06/05/2010 8:03:46 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Victory in Iraq: Worst defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.)
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To: Mike Darancette

Yes, I suspect that Musk is big Democrat donor, I know he is pretty left wing, but that does not excuse are side using left wing arguments against a private company.

I cant stand it when our side uses the lefts arguments, the left wins when the argument shifts into their territory whether they win the actual argument or not.


19 posted on 06/05/2010 8:13:24 PM PDT by tricky_k_1972 (Putting on Tinfoil hat and heading for the bomb shelter.)
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That should have been “our side” not “are side”, doh


20 posted on 06/05/2010 8:15:57 PM PDT by tricky_k_1972 (Putting on Tinfoil hat and heading for the bomb shelter.)
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