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looking for feedback - my constitutional amendment
vanity | 29 may 2010 | sten

Posted on 05/29/2010 4:19:47 PM PDT by sten

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To: Glenn

so... emergency provisions? the congress should run at or just below 100% of the federal receipts. in times of crisis, they would be able to bring it up an additional 25% or roughly $500b on receipts of $2,105b

of course, there could also be the concept of a ‘savings account’ were the congress, having only spent 95% of the receipts and the debt was below 5%, could have saved the 5% for a rainy day... like the rest of us do.


21 posted on 05/29/2010 4:40:17 PM PDT by sten
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so how do we keep them in check?

You ignore people who tell you they don't exist and you vote for people with integrity. The man I'm voting for in my congressional district never once voted for a new tax or tax increase in 14 years as a state legislator. He refuses to promise pork for the district because its irresponsible.
22 posted on 05/29/2010 4:40:46 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: sten

We need a federal recall amendment, also term limits for congress.


23 posted on 05/29/2010 4:41:11 PM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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To: cripplecreek

they have found a way around the voting booth by stuffing the ballot boxes in a massive way... then shutting down the investigations once they take office.

0bama set a very dangerous precedent when he did that


24 posted on 05/29/2010 4:44:58 PM PDT by sten
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Who gets to decide what a “time of crisis” is? Is the war on drugs a crisis? swine flu epidemic? war on terrorism? war on fat kids? war on poverty?


25 posted on 05/29/2010 4:46:13 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: whence911

how about a recall capability within the language of this amendment? if they blow the budget, they are immediately gone. no hearings required. special election held within the month for all districts effected

but i think term limits are outside the scope of where i’m trying to go with this one


26 posted on 05/29/2010 4:47:12 PM PDT by sten
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they have found a way around the voting booth by stuffing the ballot boxes in a massive way... then shutting down the investigations once they take office.

Kinda takes the whole constitutional amendment fantasy off the table doesn't it?
27 posted on 05/29/2010 4:47:59 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: sten

An amendment that bans government from spending any money on anything but itself would be a good idea. That would send all welfare programs and education spending to the states.

I think it’d be a good start anyway.


28 posted on 05/29/2010 4:48:18 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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a war is not a war unless congress declares it officially.

and the extra money/credit that Congress would have available, the extra $500b, would be all there is... thereby making them stingy on handing it out for frivolous projects


29 posted on 05/29/2010 4:49:11 PM PDT by sten
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To: cripplecreek

kind of hoping the people would almost demand such an amendment and the government might not have a choice but to amend the Constitution.

thinking if the tea parties could get behind something like this... that would be a driving force


30 posted on 05/29/2010 4:50:40 PM PDT by sten
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I think they should be banned for handing it out period. If it is not a Constitutional part of government it shouldn’t get a penny.

If the project is worthwhile, the private sector or the states should fund it.


31 posted on 05/29/2010 4:50:40 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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true... but i’m thinking we’d want to leave a little leeway... some slush money... so they can do their government thing.

keep in mind, once they break the 5% GDP line... the congressional budget would be put on a diet and dropped down to 85% of the federal receipts


32 posted on 05/29/2010 4:52:35 PM PDT by sten
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To: GeronL

yes... we’d prolly carry that 4 to 5% balance for the life of the country... as congress would rather play with the slush money than square away all debts... but at least it’d be manageable and we’d be nowhere near the 90% GDP we are now.


33 posted on 05/29/2010 4:54:29 PM PDT by sten
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Fortunately most of us are smart enough to know better than allow the idiots in DC start tweaking the constitution.

Open up the constitution to change and the dealmaking between parties will begin and we’ll be screwed.


34 posted on 05/29/2010 4:55:24 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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happened in 1913 .. which is how we got here.

i don’t see amendments that limit government as being a bad thing.


35 posted on 05/29/2010 4:56:56 PM PDT by sten
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To: sten

OK sure whatever.


36 posted on 05/29/2010 4:58:07 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: sten
The problem is that most of what is already in the Constitution is ignored and overtly violated on a day to day basis by government at all levels. How will a few more words added to a piece of paper that is already ignored help at all?

If we gutted all the unconstitutional spending programs, including, but not limited to, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, farm subsidies and the like the budget would be balanced.

37 posted on 05/29/2010 5:14:13 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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which.. if you put a set of teeth in this thing (recall congressional types when the budget is blown)... which force congress to trim off the items that are not supported by the Constitution

and if something happens... and the GDP is reduced... then congress will be forced to reduce their budget. it’s in their best interest to pass laws that would increase the GDP as well as salaries (since federal receipts rely heavily on personal income taxes)


38 posted on 05/29/2010 5:18:35 PM PDT by sten
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You are such a patriot! I think this link will help explain why this is so important.

http://www.businessinsider.com/federal-debt-as-a-percent-of-gdp-by-president-2010-5


39 posted on 05/29/2010 5:42:13 PM PDT by IheartGlenn
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You had best check http://pushbackuntil.com. The amount of money the government spends should be pegged to a set percentage of our cumulative adjusted gross income. Period. End of story. We, the people, should be deciding how much government we “want,” and that is about the fairest and best solution.


40 posted on 05/29/2010 5:43:36 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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