It was for the group that published this:
![](http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm9/wagglebee/euthanasia.jpg?t=1221694000%22";)
“This person suffering from hereditary defects
costs the people 60,000 Reichmarks during his lifetime.
People, that is your money. Read ‘New People’.”
Posted on 05/23/2010 10:11:46 AM PDT by wagglebee
That is such a disturbing story. I keep returning to it, against my will.
I’m very sorry. Thank you for sharing your story.
My dad was ‘terminated” in a Canadian hospice . I knew what they were doing and tried to stop it..but I was too late
I’m sorry to hear that you’re an RN. At which hospital do you work? I’d prefer to avoid it.
Why is that, because you would prefer an incompetent nurse that agrees with your hypocritical BS politics? Fine with me.
I'm curious, what is your methodology for declaring nurses who believe in unnecessary rationing "competent" and nurses who are pro-life "incompetent"?
I don't know about anyone else, but I would far rather be under the care of an incompetent person who wanted me to live than a "competent" person who would kill me the moment a death panel decreed that I was no longer useful.
Is an arrogant disrespect for human life a measure of competency?
It was for the group that published this:
There’s a new document called, “Will to Live,” which is NOT the same as a Living Will. It gives the patient a chance to give CLEAR instructions about not wanting to be starved or dehydrated to death, and other choices. There is one for each state. You’ll find it on:
http://www.nrlc.org/euthanasia/willtolive/docs/new%20york.rev0309.pdf
This thread is about a bunch of whining hypocrites with very little knowledge of the healthcare system arguing about things that they don't understand, hypocrites who think that turning off a ventilator or withholding dialysis or IV fluids on terminally ill patients is assisted suicide. You trying to argue about this with me would be like me trying to argue about black holes with Stephen Hawking. It's just a waste of time. good day.
I’m with you on this one.
God said, *Thou shalt not murder*.
If you participate in killing someone, no matter how you try to disguise it with semantics, you are guilty of murder.
Talk to Him about it and see if He’ll accpet your reasoning.
How ironic that you use Hawking in your argument.
I sure wouldn’t want to be in your shoes on Judgment Day.....
“arrogant disrespect for human life”? I never said anything to lead you to such a conclusion. You’re a clueless blabbering child arguing about things that you don’t understand. go away.
I’m not as easily dismissed as one of your patients.
You couldn't possibly be more wrong.
hypocrites who think that turning off a ventilator or withholding dialysis or IV fluids on terminally ill patients is assisted suicide.
NOBODY on this thread has suggested that turning off a ventilator is wrong if the patient is okay with it.
YOU are the one who introduced the absurd idea that there was a shortage of ventilators, only to backpeddle when asked for specifics. You have tried to portray yourself as some sort of expert, but NOTHING you have posted indicates that you actually know what you are talking about.
As far as removing an IV to dehydrate a person to death, you're right that's not assisted suicide, it's MURDER.
You trying to argue about this with me would be like me trying to argue about black holes with Stephen Hawking.
Talk about irony, people like you would have killed Stephen Hawking decades ago.
You're deliberately muddying the waters here, Nurse Ratched. There's a world of difference between withdrawing dialysis or stopping a vent when its futile, and dehydrating a patient to death.
Yet you seem to lump them together, which tells us everything we need to know.
(By the way, I have plenty of knowledge of the healthcare system, and I've sat on several hospital medical ethics committees. So you can dispense with the patronizing arrogant BS.)
is it murder to disconnect someone from a machine that keeps them alive even if God would have taken them long ago had men not placed the person on the machine in the first place? Who are you to determine Gods will in this matter anyways?
That's how the culture of death loves to do it. In their minds there is no difference between removing a ventilator and a lethal injection of potassium chloride.
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