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Engineers Diagnosing Voyager 2 Data System
Jet Propulsion Laboratory ^ | 5/19/2010 | JPL

Posted on 05/18/2010 11:34:34 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld

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To: sonofstrangelove

21 posted on 05/19/2010 12:09:15 PM PDT by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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wear and tear ping. Thanks sonofstrangelove.
 
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22 posted on 05/19/2010 7:15:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: PA Engineer

So did I. Hummm...


23 posted on 05/19/2010 7:16:51 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (If you can read this you are the resistance. (Oh and the GOP can bite me for $$$))
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To: PA Engineer

If you checksum the mal-formatted data, then whether it’s formatted correctly or not doesn’t matter, the checksum will still be valid unless it gets clobbered in transit.


24 posted on 05/19/2010 7:25:11 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: PA Engineer

Oh okay, never mind.


25 posted on 05/19/2010 7:26:39 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Robe

Laser light.


26 posted on 05/19/2010 10:58:29 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("You hit somebody with your fist and not with your fingers spread:-General Heinz Guderian)
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To: reagan_fanatic

It was a stupid theory to begin with. Alien civilizations would have better transmitters light years ahead than one of a 33 old spacecraft that is slowly dying.


27 posted on 05/19/2010 11:01:01 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("You hit somebody with your fist and not with your fingers spread:-General Heinz Guderian)
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To: sonofstrangelove; KevinDavis

space ping


28 posted on 05/19/2010 11:38:53 PM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: sonofstrangelove

“It was a stupid theory to begin with. Alien civilizations would have better transmitters light years ahead than one of a 33 old spacecraft that is slowly dying.”

Aliens might not even use the small bit of the EM spectrum we use - or even not use the EM spectrum at all - to communicate.


29 posted on 05/21/2010 5:55:07 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: PIF

Laser communication


30 posted on 05/21/2010 5:53:56 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("You hit somebody with your fist and not with your fingers spread:-General Heinz Guderian)
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To: sonofstrangelove

No laser of which ever color is within what we use -— think outside the box as in fields instead of vectors to describe a comm system. cf James Clerk Maxwell (now obscure, but was greatest physicist after Newton and before Albert Einstein) — quaternions was the term he used to describe his fields, but 4 were rewritten as vectors and the other 196 were discarded, from the four comes the entire description of our EM spectrum. Aliens might use the other 196 of which we know nothing.


31 posted on 05/22/2010 4:37:36 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: PIF

How about as modulated neutrino or gravitational wave emissions. These would have the advantage of being essentially immune to interference by intervening matter, but are very difficult to generate or detect with current technology.


32 posted on 05/22/2010 8:53:14 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("You hit somebody with your fist and not with your fingers spread:-General Heinz Guderian)
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To: sonofstrangelove
“How about as modulated neutrino or gravitational wave emissions. These would have the advantage of being essentially immune to interference by intervening matter, but are very difficult to generate or detect with current technology.”

While that could be a possibility, the point was that they may use a physics which we know nothing about as the basis of their communications. It is also a possibility that our EM based communications are in a decided minority of possible choices.

Had Maxwell's other 196 quaternions been pursued, among the possibilities described are free energy, instant communications and physical travel between any two points anywhere at any distance... what the present day world would look like would be entirely different.

But since what they describe is impossible, they must be dismissed unfollowed...

We live in a world described by machines, but what if aliens live in worlds described by devices? You see the disparity here? We cannot comprehend what they are doing because we cannot ‘see’ their ‘technology’ -— and so cannot hear their communications.

We are looking in the wrong places, but are unable to cross the line to look in the right places, since we have defined those places as impossible.

33 posted on 05/23/2010 4:36:12 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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