[Erik Latranyi]

We all need to be aware that this is being posted all over the internet by leftwing sites, some of which have seeped into our grand media.

[bboop]

Adjectives needed — were they BAD guys? Were they pursuing criminal actions? Were they in the midst of robberies? Kidnappings? Raping and pillaging? Then it is not nearly enough...

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

One of the dead LEOs was an FBI agent, who kicked in the door of a CC licensed woman with two small children, hoping to arrest her husband on a drug charge.

The woman, with only one minor marijuana offense years before, thought she was being home invaded by armed robbers, and was trying to protect her children when she shot the FBI agent once, at a downward angle from the top of her stairs.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08326/929641-85.stm

Importantly, the FBI has seized all assets that could be used by her to defend herself, so her attorneys have been replaced by a public defender, and they have also arrested most of her other relatives on unrelated charges.

Her brother has now been arrested for possession of firearms by a convicted felon.

Her father and sister have been arrested for having a novelty poker playing machine in their store. Her father has also been arrested for possession of a blow gun and hunting knives, because they create a situation of "child endangerment."

[ctdonath2]

“Concealed Handgun Permit Holders Have Killed at Least 161 Since May 2007”

Ummm ... ya know ... given the circumstances ... that’s kinda THE POINT?

[steamroller]

This is equivalent to statements on immigration by the SPLC or the ADL,or ACLU(big overlap in membership there)-it is left wing hate filth.My response?Come take my guns,lefties.I would welcome the target rich environment.

[Dan Nunn]

Concealed Carry Permits Are Life Savers

But since adopting a concealed carry law Florida’s total violent crime rate has dropped 32% and its homicide rate has dropped 58%. Floridians, except for criminals, are safer due to this law. And Florida is not alone. Texas’ violent crime rate has dropped 20% and homicide rate has dropped 31%, since enactment of its 1996 carry law.

Another study makes the moral case for expanding and enhancing right-to-carry laws. A report by John Lott, Jr. and David Mustard of the University of Chicago released in 1996 found "that allowing citizens to carry concealed weapons deters violent crimes and it appears to produce no increase in accidental deaths." Further, the Lott-Mustard study noted, "If those states which did not have right-to-carry concealed gun provisions had adopted them in 1992, approximately 1,570 murders; 4,177 rapes; and over 60,000 aggravate assaults would have been avoided yearly."

Think about it. Nearly 8,000 of our fellow citizens have died between 1992 and 1996 because of the irrational fear that law-abiding Americans would abuse their right to self defense. In fact concealed carry permit holders are more law-abiding than the rest of the public. For example, Florida, which has issued more carry permits than any state has issued 1.36 million permits, but revoked only 165 (0.01%) due to gun crimes by permit-holders.

There are some bad apples in any group, including concealed carry holders. Some people that shouldn't have firearms due to mental illness or whatever have you (http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/ccwprivatecitizens.pdf pages 23, 59, 72, and 88). So when this braindead organization lists a tale of 161 individuals, with many of those being disputed (see my posts above), it pales in comparison to the lives saved.

[Fido969]

This doesn’t make sense - about 50 LE are murdered a year, it doesn’t make sense that about 3 of the murderers had CCWs.

This is a statistic deliberately aimed at LEs to get them to dislike CCWs. I’d look into it pretty closely before it goes into the echo chamber.

[R U Quazee]

Yep. More lefty propaganda, out of context, out of touch with reality and no proof as to what happened in each of these ‘killings’.
http://www.usconcealedcarry.com/

[taxcontrol]

95 out of a population of what gives you a rate per ???? Compared to the rest of the US?

[Still Thinking]

Washington, DC--Concealed handgun permit holders have killed at least nine law enforcement officers in addition to 152 private citizens (including 15 shooters who killed themselves after an attack) since May 2007 according to the latest update of Concealed Carry Killers, a Violence Policy Center (VPC) on-line resource that tallies news reports of such killings.

I just love how it's just a given that in any confrontation between LEO's and the rest of us, that the LEO's must have been right.

[freekitty]

More aha statistics. You know made up numbers and lies.

[OneWingedShark]

>Concealed Handgun Permit Holders Have Killed at Least 161 Since May 2007, Including 9 LE Officers

How many of those were things like home- or self-defense?
How many of those officers were committing crimes under the color of law?

[catnipman]

It’s going to fascinating as to the nature of this lie when the NRA or other pro-gun group makes a serious analysis of how this number was derived.

Of course, their debunking will never see the light of day in the alphabet media, and the number “161” will unfortunately enter the public consciousness and forever be repeated ad nauseum.

[Red in Blue PA]

http://ccwsaveslives.blogspot.com/

‘nuff said.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Most likely this story is a fabrication.

Just like,

“No one ever used a gun for self-defense.”

“15,000 children a year are killed by guns.”

“Americans were never a gun-owning nation.”

“You’re more likely to be killed by your own gun then by a criminal with a gun.”

These were all total fabrications that the left clung to even as facts were made available that contradicted each one.

The left just needs you to be defenseless so they can rob and rape you.

[Dayman]

Anything that VPC or HCI/Brady puts out is utter garbage. It’s amazing that these idiots have any credability left with anyone other than the most hard-core leftist ideologues.

Gun owners should file a class action lawsuit against these clowns for defimation of charicter.

[sig226]

Concealed Handgun Permit Holders Have Killed at Least 161 Since May 2007 ..."

Betcha 0bama voters did that many last week.

[Sloth]

(Any concealed handgun permit holders who are eventually acquitted of their alleged crimes are not included in the tallies maintained on the site although the facts surrounding the shooting are detailed.)

I bet this means that obvious self-defense killings where no charges are ever filed ARE included in the stats.