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Elena Kagan ’81 as an undergraduate (A glimpse into her character and ideology)
The Daily Princetonian ^ | 05/11/2010

Posted on 05/11/2010 11:13:11 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 05/11/2010 11:13:11 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Elena Kagan worked under Under the tutelage of Sean Wilentz — lefty historian, friend of the Clintons, and notorious Bush-basher — Kagan wrote a thesis called “To the Final Conflict: Socialism in New York City, 1900-1933,” which first raised eyebrows when Kagan was being considered for Souter’s seat last year:

“Americans are more likely to speak of a golden past than of a golden future, of capitalism’s glories than of socialism’s greatness,” she wrote in her thesis. “Conformity overrides dissent; the desire to conserve has overwhelmed the urge to alter. Such a state of affairs cries out for explanation.”

She called the story of the socialist movement’s demise “a sad but also a chastening one for those who, more than half a century after socialism’s decline, still wish to change America … In unity lies their only hope.”


2 posted on 05/11/2010 11:16:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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“one of the most extraordinary people I’ve met in my life, let alone teaching at Princeton.”

“She’s very full of life,” he explained. “Very vital, very vivacious.”

I.e., dumb as a post.

History major, pfft. Don't want to have to bother with that icky math, do we?

3 posted on 05/11/2010 11:16:39 AM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for, it matters who takes office.)
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The effort to “discover” Kagan’s political viewpoints is a waste of time. unless one is unable to see the obvious.


4 posted on 05/11/2010 11:17:00 AM PDT by Williams (It's the policies, stupid)
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Are they going to hide her thesis, major papers, and transcripts like they did with Obama?


5 posted on 05/11/2010 11:19:00 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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I may vomit.


6 posted on 05/11/2010 11:19:04 AM PDT by CholeraJoe ("And the pony looked a little bored...")
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Yet Kagan was also more guarded in discussing politics and in her social life. “She had a reserved side,” Wilentz noted. “She’s not the kind of person to go on ‘Oprah.’ But with those boundaries, she’s just a delight to be with. You’d like to have [her] as a friend.”

In plain words, he knows she's gay, and he wants to gush, but he's not going to "out" her.

7 posted on 05/11/2010 11:20:44 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (I can see November from my house!)
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Her senior thesis is public. It’s a lament of the failure of 30’s socialism. Her grades, unlikely. But I’m willing to bet a lot of money she never passed a calculus class.

And I hate to break it to people, but the Ivys aren’t that difficult in the humanities and social sciences because those subjects are easy to begin with.


8 posted on 05/11/2010 11:25:54 AM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for, it matters who takes office.)
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Kagan is very mainstream . . . to the Ivy League, liberal Democrat establishment. She would join the liberal block on the Supreme Court, no doubt about it.
9 posted on 05/11/2010 11:29:08 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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Drunk and ugly is no way to go through life, young lady.

- Dean Wormer


11 posted on 05/11/2010 11:30:13 AM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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Elena Kagan ’81... Democratic candidate Elizabeth Holtzman... History professor Sean Wilentz, who advised Kagan on her senior thesis... Steven Bernstein ’81, the ‘Prince’ chairman who appointed Kagan to her position... She traveled in the same circle as former New York governor Eliot Spitzer ’81... worked as a legislative intern for Rep. Ted Weiss, a Democrat from New York... Ben Domenech suggested a few weeks ago on a CBS blog that Kagan would be the first openly gay justice...

All those Christian names -- not. What a tolerant liberal.

12 posted on 05/11/2010 11:36:39 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (I can see November from my house!)
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How many guys sat down and wept when Holtzman lost?


13 posted on 05/11/2010 11:44:08 AM PDT by golf lover
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Kagan’s support for Holtzman and her strong disappointment at her electoral defeat is a glimpse into her personal ideology. That she would get drunk and weep tells me that she BADLY wanted Holtzman’s policies to prevail for this country.

And what do we know about Elizabeth Holtzman ?

On January 11, 2006, the left-wing magazine, The Nation published Holtzman’s essay calling for the impeachment of U.S. President George W. Bush for authorizing “the wiretapping of hundreds, possibly thousands, of Americans, in violation of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.”

In other words Holtzman was against the Patriot Act, so against it that she would want the man task with executing it to be impeached.

Holtzman expanded on her arguments for impeaching President Bush in a 2006 book coauthored with Cynthia L. Cooper, The impeachment of George W. Bush: a practical guide for concerned citizens.

Question -— Does Kagan share this view ? This will have strong implications on our war against terrorism.

In June 2008, Holtzman published a commentary on the action of U.S. Representative Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) in introducing articles of impeachment against President Bush on June 9, 2008.

She is currently weighing a bid for New York Attorney General in the 2010 elections.


14 posted on 05/11/2010 11:51:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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“Elena Kagan is about the furthest thing from a socialist.

Sherrr. And as far as working for Liz Holtzman goes, by the way, Liz was a nutso, obsessive, man-hating feminazi from the git-go, and a confirmed bachelorette, if you catch my drift. In those days (as in these), normal liberal girls stayed away from her, because she was so bitter and weird, and so good at making enemies.

To want to work in Holtzman's coven bespeaks a very special gal.

15 posted on 05/11/2010 11:51:37 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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She would join the liberal block on the Supreme Court, no doubt about it.

I think by calling these people 'liberal' we are making a big mistake. They are not liberals. They are radical leftists. They have no resemblance to liberals of the past.

Remember, these are the very same people who were willing to burn Chicago to the ground in 1968 because the greatest liberal of his generation, Hubert Humphry, won the Democrat presidential nomination. Since then, they have purged the Democrat party of liberals. It is now the party of hard, radical leftists.

Lets start calling them what they are -- Radical Leftists!

16 posted on 05/11/2010 11:57:37 AM PDT by Ditto
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“Elena Kagan is about the furthest thing from a socialist. Period. And always had been. Period,” Wilentz explained.

Currently, she's on a golf course, looking for the real socialists.

17 posted on 05/11/2010 12:04:54 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To sum up: We have a self-important, radical, vociferous, anti-military lesbian who has sheltered her entire adult life in an ivory tower and laments that the left just isn’t left enough. But we’re supposed to believe that she’s mainstream because her fellow “lefter left” friends in academia assure us of it while at the same time they piss down our backs and remark on the rainy weather.


18 posted on 05/11/2010 12:12:30 PM PDT by Chiltepe
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“Democratic candidate Elizabeth Holtzman had lost the race for one of New York’s Senate seats. And then she sat down and wept.”

I’m sure Holtzman’s loss was a disappointment, but more likely a far greater disappointment to Kagan that year was Ted Kennedy’s abject failure as a liberal challenger to Jimmy Carter in the spring primaries and Carter’s subsequent defeat by an unashamedly conservative candidate, Ronald Reagan. I’m sure Kagan thought the U.S. was going to hell in a handbasket rather than being on the cusp of the greatest postwar economic expansion ever seen.


19 posted on 05/11/2010 12:13:30 PM PDT by DrC
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Yet Bernstein said that, whatever her views, Kagan always based them on calm reasoning. “She might argue something quite passionately, but it was thoughtful and reasoned,” he said. “[Her opinions were] informed by evidence and data and not just feelings ... That’s not a bad thing for a Supreme Court justice.”

Over and over again, this article hits the same point - her uniformly hardcore leftist views are not radical. They are "well-reasoned," "sober," "calm," "mainstream", etc.

The people interviewed, and most journalists, consider hardcore leftist thought to be mainstream and reassuring. All their friends, colleagues and acquaintences believe all the exact same things and they're all nice.

Myopic dingbats.

20 posted on 05/11/2010 12:14:20 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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