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CA-SEN: Fiorina and the GOP Launch Last-Minute Back-Door Attack on Chuck DeVore
UNCOVERAGE.net ^ | May 9, 2010 | Admin

Posted on 05/09/2010 8:59:35 PM PDT by Syncro

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To: Syncro

Is this the gal that wrote this conspiracy article?

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181 posted on 05/09/2010 11:42:36 PM PDT by ansel12 (MITT: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: EternalVigilance

People you are snarking at are Conservative Republicans living here in California as I am.

You are not a Republican and live in Iowa.
but take on the Conservative Republicans here who
support the best candidate who can also beat Boxer.

I won’t support a candidate who is is Liberal and tied into Muslims and their money as CAmpbell.

I won’t support DeVore who has the Ron Paul talking points re the War on Terror and pushes an idea he wrote a hack book about years ago in which the John Birch Society
dovetails into as on the Liberty Forest Ron Paul Forum 10/29/09. Not Senator material.


182 posted on 05/09/2010 11:44:44 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: SoCalPol

So, in other words, you can’t prove your bogus charge that I’m dishonest.


183 posted on 05/09/2010 11:46:39 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO! - "Throw All The Bums Out!")
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To: EternalVigilance

EV, I ignored your troll post and personal attack until I saw that you were attacking me behind my back, you need to lay off this personal business.


184 posted on 05/09/2010 11:46:44 PM PDT by ansel12 (MITT: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: SoCalPol
I won’t support DeVore who has the Ron Paul talking points re the War on Terror

Pure baloney, btw.

185 posted on 05/09/2010 11:47:29 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO! - "Throw All The Bums Out!")
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To: ansel12

Stay away from me, troll.


186 posted on 05/09/2010 11:48:20 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO! - "Throw All The Bums Out!")
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To: EternalVigilance

You hang on threads looking and baiting people and have seen your same words on other threads calling people trolls, stay away and on it goes.
You highjack every thread especially those you have no connection with, not being a Republican nor living in California.


187 posted on 05/09/2010 11:50:51 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: EternalVigilance

You turn every thread into series of your foul mouthed personal attacks, you posted this.

To: Kimberly GG
I’m REALLY, REALLY starting to HATE the freeking GOP.
The way they’ve been acting in this CA Senate race has us calling them the “Harpie Party” at my house these days.

Most FR old-timers will know what I’m talking about.

Frankly, the pro-FioRINO posters on FR the last couple of days bear all the hallmarks of posting straight from the New Majority talking points.

Vicious gutter politics at it’s most cringe-worthy.

56 posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 9:40:51 PM by EternalVigilance


And I posted this to you, it is absolutely, relevant to your anti-GOP post as a competing Party Chairman yourself, and the part about “starting” to hate the GOP, but of course it started your cycle of personal attacks.

To: EternalVigilance
“The way they’ve been acting in this CA Senate race has us calling them the “Harpie Party” at my house these days.”
“Vicious gutter politics at it’s most cringe-worthy.”
Ahhh, isn’t your house where the party chairman of a political party lives, a party that runs against the GOP, like in the Presidential election of 2008?

So a competing party chairman had these nice things to say about the Republican Party, that doesn’t seem surprising.

When you run a competing political party, I bet the competing parties do get talked about harshly in your house.

I bet Howard Dean’s house hears a lot of nasty things about Republicans too, you should send him that “Harpie Party” insult, he can help make it go viral.

65 posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 9:50:58 PM by ansel12


188 posted on 05/09/2010 11:51:38 PM PDT by ansel12 (MITT: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: Nextrush

I don’t think it’s fair to say she’s with the machine because she happened to endorse someone who was also supported by others.

If you look at the body of her endorsements, the vast majority have been of those who are not part of the machine. Is Rand Paul in Kentucky part of the machine? He’s running against the hand-picked candidate of the GOP Senate leader and is the son of a well known loon and crank. Was Doug Hoffman? Bachmann in MN? What about Duffy in WI? She backed him long ago when no one had heard of him and Obey was still a huge favorite. She backed Rick Perry in TX when the Bush family(still big in TX) and Dick Cheney and most of the DC GOP backed KBH. A few others.

When she was Governor she endorsed the then Lt Gov Parnell against longtime incumbent Don Young. I don’t know if that’s ever happened in US politics where a sitting Gov backed someone in a primary against an incumbent. Is any sitting GOP Gov supporting a primary challenger this yr? In UT for example their Gov stayed silent. So, her record more than shows that she could care less about the establishment. She resigned her job and told the head of the AK GOP to go pound sand. That takes balls.

I doubt she endorsed Fiorina because she’s the “establishment” choice. Now, it may happen that sometimes her choice will coincide with the establishment’s choice. That happens. I think she would have endorsed her even if the “machine” hadn’t. THey’re interests just happened to connect here.

We don’t really know the whole story here. She just doesn’t endorse people out of the blue. I’d suspect they have to ask for it, or at least agree to it. Did DeVore attempt to gain her endorsement at any time over the past few months? Did any of his people contact hers? Fiorina’s probably did, I’d think. After all, she’s somewhat controversial, so if Fiorina were to have sought her out and asked for support, that shows something. A lot of people don’t want to be linked to her. See McDonnell in VA and Kirk in IL apparently.

I doubt she just decided to endorse Fiorina and did it without her knowing as a total surprise. If Fiorina contacted her and said she’d appreciate her support and DeVore sat on his hands, can you really blame her? DeVore has had months to contact her. Carpe Diem.

If both contacted her and she still chose Fiorina, that’s understandable too. They may have met during the campaign and developed a relationship. So she had more of a personal tie with her. Also, I don’t think it’s a big surprise that she’d be supportive of another woman. Especially another pro-life woman. How many pro-life women are there in the Senate?

All things being equal, I’d expect her to back a woman candidate, if possible. If she decides to run for President, it would a nice coup to have the support of the new female Jr Senator from CA who knocked off Boxer, the most pro-abortion Senator in the history of the Congress.

I wouldn’t be surprised if she were to endorse Ayotte in NH, Norton in CO, Lowden in NV, McMahon in CT. I’m sure if any of them asked her for an endorsement, she’d support them as well.

In her endorsement she didn’t say anything bad about DeVore. And I’m sure if he wins the primary she’d support him against Boxer.

But this is probably as simple as Fiorina asked her for support and she responded.


189 posted on 05/09/2010 11:53:58 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: ansel12

A lot of these people are not conservatives of course ansell. As you know better than me! They are either Paulbots or small agenda voters (maintaining Alan Keyes pitiful lifestyle for example). Whichever way they fall between those two categories, they have become accustomed to losing and being frustrated. They’d like to promote that negativity among conservatives too.

They are no friends to Republicans of course, but they are no friends to Conservatives either. They are spoilers.

We’ll see what happens in a few weeks - if Campbell gets elected I hope we remember these posters. NOT those that support DeVore because they like him, nor those that are really concerned about Palin endorsing Fiorina instead of DeVore on real principles, but those that get on every thread bashing the only conservative who has any real visibility currently - Palin.

If Palin doesn’t run in 2012, no doubt they will start attacking the next conservative with the highest visibilty here on FR too.

A tourched earth policy.


190 posted on 05/09/2010 11:57:53 PM PDT by militanttoby
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To: SoCalPol

If you’re inferring that I’m in the habit of going around calling people trolls, again, you can’t prove it, just like you can’t offer one scrap of evidence that I’m dishonest, as you claimed. I only call trolls trolls. Can you point to someone else besides the troll on this thread I’ve called that?

FR is a place for the expression of political opinions about politics. California’s US Senate race affects us all. You don’t have the exclusive on commentary. Sorry.


191 posted on 05/09/2010 11:58:10 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO! - "Throw All The Bums Out!")
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To: ansel12

Stay away from me, troll.


192 posted on 05/09/2010 11:59:02 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO! - "Throw All The Bums Out!")
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To: militanttoby
My understanding is that Fiorina has considerable Tea Party support

That's what she wants everyone to believe. One poster, ansel or something like that has bought into it hook, line and sinker.

Here is something I dug up and posted on another thread:

She's a former CEO and the Tea Party endorsed her rival. But this GOP candidate in the California Senate race calls herself an anti-elitist Tea Partier.[ So she is a self-appointed tea partier ]

Though a national Tea Party group endorsed state Assemblyman Chuck DeVore over former Hewlett Packard CEO Carly Fiorina in the California Republican Senate primary, Fiorina isn't holding any grudges. She's using the Tea Party movement to raise money [Ah ha that's the connection]

Fiorina's letter is loaded with Tea Party rhetoric. Fiorina declares, "As a life-long fiscal conservative, I'm ready to send a message to Washington: we have had enough government expansion and taxation!" She slams Obama for mocking "us," as if she, too, is a Tea Partier.

(DeVore was one of the few officeholders invited to speak at a Tea Party rally in Nevada in late March with Sarah Palin.) This former corporate honcho—whose stint at HP was marked by massive layoffs and controversy—wants to be seen as a Tea Partier, too.

...despite her own CEO past becoming a potential liability and Tea Party activists endorsing a rival, Fiorina has a clear political strategy: her own corporate takeover of the Tea Party.

Note the last sentence
193 posted on 05/10/2010 12:00:38 AM PDT by Syncro (November is hunting season. No bag limit-Ted Nugent)
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To: EternalVigilance

Grow up man, what was in post 65 to set you off like this, people aren’t supposed to know that you are a professional working these threads for you party?


194 posted on 05/10/2010 12:01:17 AM PDT by ansel12 (MITT: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: Syncro

Sorry my mere presence walked on your thread. Like all good Alinskyites they are expert at making it about me rather than about the subject at hand. Anyhow, good post. I’m outta here.


195 posted on 05/10/2010 12:02:37 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO! - "Throw All The Bums Out!")
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To: EternalVigilance

This formulatic response is sooooo tiresome, EV. As they say, if you can’t stand the heat, then ....


196 posted on 05/10/2010 12:02:51 AM PDT by militanttoby
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To: Syncro; militanttoby

What ansel12 pointed out, is that in the only polling (that I can find) we have of California voters that were asked about the tea party, of those that identify strongly with the tea party, Fiorina wins the highest number of them, not Devore.


197 posted on 05/10/2010 12:06:24 AM PDT by ansel12 (MITT: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: militanttoby

I’ve never even seen your screen name on FR before, newbie...until the sewage started to flow from the FioRINO camp. I really have no desire to talk to you, since I have no hope of having any kind of decent or profitable exchange. See ya.


198 posted on 05/10/2010 12:06:41 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO! - "Throw All The Bums Out!")
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To: Syncro

The national group that endorsed Devore is the tea party express, no mystery about that.


199 posted on 05/10/2010 12:08:21 AM PDT by ansel12 (MITT: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: streetpreacher

Hey, at least you manned up, and you were not hit-and-run.


200 posted on 05/10/2010 12:09:15 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (70 mph shouldn't be a speed limit; it shoud be a mandate!)
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