Posted on 05/02/2010 10:06:04 AM PDT by Menehune56
As I posted before: They made a deal.
If John McCain had won the election we’d have the same issue... as he was also born on foreign soil in a civilian hospital in Colon, Panama and fails the Constitutional requirement of natural born citizenship. It was so nice to hear pundits and media bring up this fact /lol. The “born on a military hospital” is PSYOPS fantasy.
What’s VERY interesting is that in early 2008 the 3 candidates were already conniving with each other.
February 28 Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO) with co-sponsers Barry n Hillary in background attempted Bill S. 2678 Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act, to change requirements on the Constitution’s natural born citizenship provision to no avail.
One month later McCaskill is back again w/co-sponsers Barry and Hillary for Resolution 511 declaring John McCain eligible as “both parents were U.S. citizens at the time of his birth...”
So
— never minding the fact this bill is toilet paper and Barry didn’t even qualify said criteria —
WHY were there TWO Senators co-sponsoring such an issue, TWICE, WHO were in direct COMPETITION with John McCain in the 2008 election?
Funny how Hillary get’s Sec of State. See how blackmail works?
And if McCain had won..what would have Hillary gotten? The one with nothing to lose...
And of course we’ve heard the McCain camp declare “we’ve looked into Barry’s NBC issue, nothing to find”..riiight.
Usually the question comes up, well if such and such (opposing) campaign and management had this dirt on such and such candidate, why wasn’t it brought up?? Because the whole house of cards would fall.
Everybody’s dirty.
I don’t accept the premise. It was not a foregone conclusion that Obama was going to win (or Hillary or Johnny either). That’s just plain silly.
I agree. It's not like this was 1984 where everyone knew Mondale was doomed, to the extent that even conservatives almost felt a twinge of pity for his trudging on to the inevitable (although choosing Grandpa Munster makeup for his last debate with Reagan remains relatively inexplicable—maybe he just finally cracked).
McCain clearly lost, but it was not a total rout. One can imagine a better run campaign, or a few select events playing out slightly differently, getting him over the top.
Star Traveler has a number of fellow travelers who show up in force if a thread gets legs - there are dozens and dozens of examples of it on this site. This happens because Obama and his handlers really don’t want the birth certificate issue to go mainstream. It’s a gotcha item and they know it.
Now, to correcting the information about John McCain and eligibility. The president must be a natural born citizen.
A natural born citizen is easy to define:
1. Both parents have to be American citizens.
2. Must be born on U.S. soil.
John McCain meets the #1 requirement but not #2. McCain was born in a hospital in Colon, Panama. Panama was not U.S. territory and the hospital was NOT on a U.S. military base. Seems unfair, but it is the truth.
The fact that both McCain and Obama were ineligible to hold office is thought by many to be something other than a coincidence.
It gets very tiresome having to go over the same ground because trolls like Star Traveler provide devious falsehoods so I’m not going to provide a collection of links to you nor any backup for what is stated above. However, if you are interested in having links and backup for everything I have stated here, please respond and I will send you that information via FReepmail.
Alternatively, most of what I have said can be verified by reading this recent thread:
“John McCain meets the #1 requirement but not #2. McCain was born in a hospital in Colon, Panama. Panama was not U.S. territory and the hospital was NOT on a U.S. military base. Seems unfair, but it is the truth.”
Uh, no, it’s actually nut house stuff that removes one from serious conversation.
Is that you, tired_old_liberal?
“Is that you, tired_old_liberal?”
No, it’s just a sane person.
People with inquiring minds don’t suffer from tunnel vision.
Sane - probably. Wrong - definitely.
“I have read repeatedly that Natural Born Citizen applies when both parents are citizens”
Read Vattel’s Law of Nations” the legal treatise the founder’s used in writing the Constitution and actually referenced in the Consititution. Natural Born Citizen is defined as someone born in the country by 2 parent citizen’s of that country. “Law of Nations” was the book which was recently discovered that George Washington had not returned to the New York library. McCain and Obama should have both been ineligible, regardless of where the Kenyan was born his father was a British subject.
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It's stupid, super-sized.
But you certainly have been and are still rooting for him here!!!
So why do you continue to butt or break into the "nut house"???
Nobody here are preventing you from going back to DU where you again may feel more welcome and comfortable. And we won't miss you either!!!
So, just for the record, you are stating that you support the proposition that McCain is not a natural born citizen? Because that is what I was objecting to, and that is complete nut house stuff. There’s no need to single me out, either, as multiple other people on this thread found it equally ludicrous.
McCain was totally eligible, having been born to two American citizens, one a naval officer, no less.
Obama was totally eligible, having been born in Honolulu. He's totally eligible in fact and law, just not in his own mind.
Tho' it may be painful to admit it, the GOP turned their backs on the Founding Fathers here, no question; they didn't even try.
I keep getting GOP "surveys" soliciting for cash. I respond with a promise for big bucks IF they redeem themselves and press for resolution of BHO's eligibility BEFORE NOV 2010.
Do you have proper Tea Party attire?:
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