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1 posted on 04/29/2010 10:38:21 AM PDT by AJKauf
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To: AJKauf

Where is the hurl alert?


2 posted on 04/29/2010 10:40:43 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Papa of two new Army Brats! Congrats to my Soldier son and his wife.)
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Citizens with guns do not scare me.

The federal government of the USA scares me.


3 posted on 04/29/2010 10:41:16 AM PDT by chris37
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Who the hell is Bob Owens? Open carry is fantastic, frankly.


4 posted on 04/29/2010 10:41:35 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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I am all for our right to open carry, I just don’t think anyone should. It really should be a right to concealed carry without a permit. Bad guys do it all the time.


5 posted on 04/29/2010 10:42:24 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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I don’t understand the idea behind brandishing firearms in public. Even some police departments require guns be concealed when carried by officers off-duty in civilian clothes. As an armed citizen, the last thing I want to do is advertise that I’m armed, to friend or foe. Concealment will hopefully educate the bad guys that no one can be assumed to be someone they can safely victimize, regardless of appearances.


7 posted on 04/29/2010 10:45:32 AM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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wait.... what??

It passed in Arizona and will pass elsewhere.


8 posted on 04/29/2010 10:46:36 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
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Wow...talk about having the proverbial “sand in the vajajay”...what a whiner! While I don’t necessarily agree with open carry (from a tactical standpoint), these guys are still on our side, as far as I can tell...


9 posted on 04/29/2010 10:48:44 AM PDT by Andonius_99 (There are two sides to every issue. One is right, the other is wrong; but the middle is always evil.)
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Don’t this bozo know that we are no longer cringing with what the other side may say or how they may charactarize us?

No longer are we paralyzed with fear of being called ‘intolerant’ or ‘homophobe’ or even ‘racist’.

Th gloves are off now.


11 posted on 04/29/2010 10:52:12 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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Who is Bob Owens?


12 posted on 04/29/2010 10:52:24 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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What is the BS????


13 posted on 04/29/2010 10:54:01 AM PDT by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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Sounds like the same folks who keep saying the eligibility issue is “hurting Republicans”. But then they also seem to really be saying that taking principled conservative stands is “hurting Republicans”.
17 posted on 04/29/2010 11:00:25 AM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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ole bob evidently doesnt get out much...cowering beneath the covers waiting for a positive media experience will be a long cry...


18 posted on 04/29/2010 11:07:08 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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If open carry is legal in these states then hats off to the men and women who are carrying on with the fight to preserve gun rights.


20 posted on 04/29/2010 11:10:02 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Everyone needs valid ID except illegal aliens and the President - only in America)
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Two big positives with Open Carry:

1. Open Carry actively protects you, with no intervention from yourself. Concealed carry is useful only once you draw your weapon. Criminals go for the low-hanging fruit, and anyone who feels as though they will “become a target” needs their head examined, and anyone who feels that someone will steal their gun needs a better holster.

2. Open Carry spreads the message to everyday folks that gun owners are peaceful, law abiding citizens. Stats like “4% of the population have CCW licenses/permits” mean nothing to the people on the fence. Actually seeing a gun and seeing someone responsible go about their daily business without shooting up the place does wonders.


21 posted on 04/29/2010 11:11:21 AM PDT by Dan Nunn (Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise. -The Great One)
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Pinging fellow Open Carrier!


22 posted on 04/29/2010 11:12:12 AM PDT by Dan Nunn (Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise. -The Great One)
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I think I understand the point this guy is trying to make. This is no longer the America where a boy could carry a .22 down the side of the road to go plinking and not raise an eyebrow.

This America has been “suburbanized” and conditioned (Think housewives and grey flannel suits)to be afraid of anyone armed, with the exception of police.

They probably don't own a gun nor know anyone who does. In their America, only criminals and rednecks are packing.

It's a visual viewpoint not necessary a political one.

I don't agree but alot do...

23 posted on 04/29/2010 11:17:29 AM PDT by RedMonqey (You only think you are free.....)
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It’s interesting that few of the comments have addressed the writer’s actual point, which is that the demonstrations have been detrimental to the gun rights movement. This seems to me self-evident.

It is entirely possible for an action to be legal and constitutional and still be politically disastrous.

I support the right of the open carry guys to do what they do. I just wish they wouldn’t do it.


24 posted on 04/29/2010 11:19:19 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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As a practical matter, the primary reason I can think of is that it makes them the first target of any criminal. rexrs says it best, “They turn a blind eye to the tactical advantage of surprise when carrying concealed and prefer the public political statement of attention seeking gadflys.” You are simply in a much better situation if potential criminals don’t know who is armed, and just as importantly, society at large is under more protection (at least theoretically) when felons don’t know who may have concealed guns.

Truly the rantings of a madman. Even if his statement that I made bold is correct, "society" is safer, I prefer knowing that "I" am safer. The criminal may still go about his crime. He will just move on right past me while looking for a victim.

25 posted on 04/29/2010 11:19:29 AM PDT by Dan Nunn (Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise. -The Great One)
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So this guys sites a couple AP hit pieces in evidence of his claim?

Wow.

Guess that trumps the consitution any old day of the week.


30 posted on 04/29/2010 11:23:09 AM PDT by Pessimist
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I respectfully disagree with this article’s headline and overall message.

There is more than one issue behind Open Carry. For some, it is the only legal way they are allowed to carry. For many, it is about being able to carry and exercise their 2nd Amendment right without government requiring them to have a government permit to carry (ie govt having ability to revoke their carry right). FOr many, it also is about being able to carry the way they want to carry, to use their own intellect to determine if they want to carry in the open, just like police officers do (without freaking the same people out), and no criminal does.

I’d be all for concealed carry only if I didn’t need a license to do it. The government has no problem with me exercising my right to carry in the open where I am, and in fact it’s the only way they allow me to, but I will be damned if I will trade in my right to open carry without a permit, for concealed carry that can be taken away with a permit the government can take away whenever they want. I should be able to determine for myself, given at any point in time, what makes more sense for me to do at that moment, either carry concealed or out in the open - without permits. If I have the right, I have the right and don’t need a license to exercise the right.


46 posted on 04/29/2010 11:38:15 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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