Posted on 04/29/2010 8:55:07 AM PDT by tutstar
Wow, good intel. Wow way to go O, caricature who you believe to be your enemies.
BOO! Did I scare you? lol
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1) Exactly how many such signs have you, personally, seen?
2) Have you proof that such signs (if any) were not carried by leftist disruptors there to spread FUD?
3) Remind me again: How does that thing called the "Bill of Rights" start off?
My favorite sign.
Will Palin be forced into exhile and have to campaign from a distant land?
Will Obama’s thugs smash on anyone who speaks her name?
We already have the precursors to a hostile dictator taking over.
I know a lot of conservatives have hope that the military will fall on the side of the people when our rights are dissolved, but I believe whoever gives them their paycheck will win. We can’t depend on the military, the tea parities, or whatever, God is our only help and it’s our (Christians) independence from Him that’s lead us to where we are now.
If Afghanis can do it...
Are people who disagree with this Administration now the enemies of the United States? Seems like there’s some bureaucratic confusion here. This is particularly laughable in view of the fact that the Army kept a jihadist on the payroll until he killed thirteen people, and is now trying to cover its ass.
Heh! Love that pic.
I don’t think it’ll happen that way. The feds know that possibility would sink their ambitions. They’ll plan things differently.
Ping!
The Joint Cheifs are spineless and will follow the orders of the Kenyan usurper.
This "exercise" can't make sense to them. Be prepared to quell the peaceful protest of peaceful American citizens?
This is ominous. We are in dark days.
I am not so sure about the locals. As long as the serfs have TV and a paycheck they will follow orders. Some supposed military types here attacked the LTC doctors asking to see proof of the Kenyan.
Yep. I think the SCOTUS needs to grow a pair and say something.
Agreed. I always thought someone was asleep at the switch, now I know this eventual train wreck is by design.
http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/militarylaw1/a/obeyingorders.htm
When one enlists in the United States Military, active duty or reserve, they take the following oath:
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
National Guard enlisted members take a similar oath, except they also swear to obey the orders of the Governor of their state.
Officers, upon commission, swear to the following:
I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter.
Military discipline and effectiveness is built on the foundation of obedience to orders. Recruits are taught to obey, immediately and without question, orders from their superiors, right from day-one of boot camp.
Military members who fail to obey the lawful orders of their superiors risk serious consequences. Article 90 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) makes it a crime for a military member to WILLFULLY disobey a superior commissioned officer. Article 91 makes it a crime to WILLFULLY disobey a superior Noncommissioned or Warrant Officer. Article 92 makes it a crime to disobey any lawful order (the disobedience does not have to be “willful” under this article).
In fact, under Article 90, during times of war, a military member who willfully disobeys a superior commissioned officer can be sentenced to death.
Seems like pretty good motivation to obey any order you're given, right? Nope. These articles require the obedience of LAWFUL orders. An order which is unlawful not only does not need to be obeyed, but obeying such an order can result in criminal prosecution of the one who obeys it. Military courts have long held that military members are accountable for their actions even while following orders — if the order was illegal.
“I was only following orders,” has been unsuccessfully used as a legal defense in hundreds of cases (probably most notably by Nazi leaders at the Nuremberg tribunals following World War II). The defense didn't work for them, nor has it worked in hundreds of cases since.
The first recorded case of a United States Military officer using the “I was only following orders” defense dates back to 1799. During the War with France, Congress passed a law making it permissible to seize ships bound to any French Port. However, when President John Adams wrote the order to authorize the U.S. Navy to do so, he wrote that Navy ships were authorized to seize any vessel bound for a French port, or traveling from a French port. Pursuant to the President's instructions, a U.S. Navy captain seized a Danish Ship (the Flying Fish), which was en route from a French Port. The owners of the ship sued the Navy captain in U.S. maritime court for trespass. They won, and the United States Supreme Court upheld the decision. The U.S. Supreme Court held that Navy commanders “act at their own peril” when obeying presidential orders when such orders are illegal.
The Vietnam War presented the United States military courts with more cases of the “I was only following orders” defense than any previous conflict. The decisions during these cases reaffirmed that following manifestly illegal orders is not a viable defense from criminal prosecution. In United States v. Keenan, the accused (Keenan) was found guilty of murder after he obeyed in order to shoot and kill an elderly Vietnamese citizen. The Court of Military Appeals held that “the justification for acts done pursuant to orders does not exist if the order was of such a nature that a man of ordinary sense and understanding would know it to be illegal.” (Interestingly, the soldier who gave Keenan the order, Corporal Luczko, was acquitted by reason of insanity).
Ping
After being a Scoutmaster for over 8 years and also working closely with the Civil Air Patrol, I have lot’s of “adopted” kids that went both into the US Military and Law Enforcement in both enlisted and Officer rank....
Quietly they have told me that the general officer corp and most LEO’s despise Obama and would never follow that type of command to turn on US citizens....They would either stand down or join the citizenry.
False, the president and congress can do anything they want.
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