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USCCB OPPOSE ARIZONA LAW
USCCB News Release ^ | April 27, 2010 | USCCB News Release

Posted on 04/29/2010 8:04:43 AM PDT by ethics

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To: Mr Rogers
The Catholic Church has done well on abortion.

How? The Catholic vote is what puts Democrats into office, and Catholics are more pro-abortion than Protestants.

Why are Catholics a dependable, Democrat constituency?

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21 posted on 04/29/2010 8:37:48 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney-"I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there")
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To: ethics

Thanks Gov Brewer for taking action!!

http://www.azgovernor.gov/Contact.asp


22 posted on 04/29/2010 8:38:08 AM PDT by Gopher Broke (Repeal Obamacare !!)
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To: ethics
USCCB OPPOSE ARIZONA LAW

Bunch of idiots.

23 posted on 04/29/2010 8:38:28 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Publius6961
I have never left the church. The church left me, and apparently is hell-bent on receding further each year, with the insistence on political BS.

Before Catholics abandon the church, isn't there some way for American Catholics to force the Catholic leadership to accede to American, muscular, conservative, Christianity?

How can Catholics Americanize the Catholic church?

24 posted on 04/29/2010 8:41:41 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney-"I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there")
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To: bobjam
Great. Let’s do for immigrants what affirmative action did for minorities. Let’s make it so that society assumes any foreigner is an illegal. Without enforcement of our immigration laws, it will be assumed that immigrants who worked hard and followed the rules to get here simply snuck over the border.

You might have been a liitle less cryptic in your post.
The superficial message perceived is probalby the opposite of what you intented.

25 posted on 04/29/2010 8:46:48 AM PDT by Publius6961 (10% of muslims, the killer murdering radicals, are "only" 140,000,000 of 'em)
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To: ansel12
How can Catholics Americanize the Catholic church?

Maybe a more apt question would be "how can Catholics 'Catholicize' AMCHURCH?

26 posted on 04/29/2010 8:47:48 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: ansel12

Perhaps limiting our weekly offerings, including a note explaining we do this as a means of protest towards the position of the USCCB?


27 posted on 04/29/2010 8:47:57 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: Mr Rogers
The Catholic Church has done well on abortion

Obama Notre Dame Speech: President Welcomed With "Thunderous Applause"
28 posted on 04/29/2010 8:49:43 AM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: Rational Thought

Add,

We will use the left over money to support other causes which the Church supports (financially supporting Pro-Life candidates perhaps?)


29 posted on 04/29/2010 8:50:53 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: ethics

Empty Collection Basket Alert...


30 posted on 04/29/2010 8:52:34 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ansel12

This is the last straw for the Catholic Church...they are officially agitators for the enemy now.

This is no longer arguable.


31 posted on 04/29/2010 8:52:53 AM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: Rational Thought; ansel12
Perhaps limiting our weekly offerings, including a note explaining we do this as a means of protest towards the position of the USCCB?

I believe the calculation of the hierarchy is that your withholdings will be more than compensated by the offerings of the illegal, but devout, aliens who are flocking to the churches. And, as a touch of irony, you as a taxpayer will be indirectly subsidizing the illegals' offerings... /g

32 posted on 04/29/2010 8:55:11 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: ansel12
Before Catholics abandon the church, isn't there some way for American Catholics to force the Catholic leadership to accede to American, muscular, conservative, Christianity?

I wish I knew.

My comparison of the Church to the Federal government was not casual or impulsive.
The feeling of helplessness and hopelessness drives the wholesale evacuation of support, yet the totalitarians simply increase the abuse.

33 posted on 04/29/2010 8:57:54 AM PDT by Publius6961 (10% of muslims, the killer murdering radicals, are "only" 140,000,000 of 'em)
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To: roses of sharon

The majority of the voting electorate voted for Obama, therefore the odds are that you voted for Obama.


34 posted on 04/29/2010 9:00:11 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Publius6961

It does come across that way...lunch was calling


35 posted on 04/29/2010 9:01:11 AM PDT by bobjam
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To: Secret Agent Man
"And what fighting could you do within the RCC to change things?"

I am not going to take advice and guidance from a failed Catholic unless it is to point out where you went wrong. This battle is not for the weak and the quitters. If you believe can find peace and salvation in the message of another denomination and not in the Catechism God Bless or God help you.

Since you know neither of the parties to that discussion you don't know what has or has not been attempted. You also place little faith in the power of truth and the ability of the Holy Spirit to effect change.

36 posted on 04/29/2010 9:04:09 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: A.A. Cunningham
"The majority of the voting electorate voted for Obama, therefore the odds are that you voted for Obama."

What we say about our Catholic faith is the easy part. What we do with it shapes who we really are. Many good Catholics voted for President Obama. Many voted for Senator McCain. Both parties have plenty of decent people in their ranks.

But when we hear that 54 percent of American Catholics voted for President Obama last November, and that this somehow shows a sea change in their social thinking, we can reasonably ask: How many of them practice their faith on a regular basis? And when we do that, we learn that most practicing Catholics actually voted for Senator McCain. Of course, that doesn't really tell us whether anyone voted for either candidate for the right reasons. Nobody can do a survey of the secret places of the human heart. But it does tell us that numbers can be used to prove just about anything. We won't be judged on our knowledge of poll data. We'll be judged on whether we proved it by our actions when we said "I am a Catholic, and Jesus Christ is Lord."

- Archbishop Charles Chaput

37 posted on 04/29/2010 9:07:26 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: A.A. Cunningham

??


38 posted on 04/29/2010 9:18:46 AM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: roses of sharon

Sit up in your chair higher so the lesson about why it’s wrong to generalize doesn’t sail so far over your head.


39 posted on 04/29/2010 9:26:36 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Natural Law

From my own personal experience in the RCC, which you have no knowledge of either, the Holy Spirit often has little to do with the political and financial decision making of the organizational hierarchy. I know what I speak of being there. I know what I’ve seen and heard and experienced and learned what I know from the priests who were close family friends and leaders of congregations. If you want to romanticize and idealize how RCC church decisions are made, well that might work for you. Don’t rip on others who see these things going on they believe are unbiblical, and decide to separate themselves from it.

Your condescending attitude towards other Christians not in your denomination is also unhelpful, unflattering and based on the RCC’s own track record, hardly defendable or deserved.


40 posted on 04/29/2010 9:46:21 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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