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FBI agent short on details on militia inquiry
Toledo Blade ^ | April 28, 2010 | AP

Posted on 04/28/2010 6:09:15 AM PDT by FreedomPoster

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They got their headline.
1 posted on 04/28/2010 6:09:15 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: FreedomPoster

That is all they were interested in.

Like TEA Party=violence/racist, with no facts whatsoever.


2 posted on 04/28/2010 6:13:06 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
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To: FreedomPoster

I guess not divulging the evidence in court is transparency


3 posted on 04/28/2010 6:13:34 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
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To: FreedomPoster

Once again the FBI is used as a political tool


4 posted on 04/28/2010 6:13:39 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
Once again the FBI is used as a political tool

Tell me if their budget is increased and I'll tell you who is using whom.

5 posted on 04/28/2010 6:15:39 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: FreedomPoster

Ask Bill Clinton!


6 posted on 04/28/2010 6:15:52 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: FreedomPoster
This statement is confusing to me.

"But the judge said the agent's appearance was appropriate because the burden is on defense lawyers to show their clients won't be a threat to the public if released."

I thought it was up to the prosecution to prove they were dangerous not the other way around.

7 posted on 04/28/2010 6:18:37 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: FreedomPoster

Boy is this case thin, for a SWAT team action. Good Grief.


8 posted on 04/28/2010 6:18:59 AM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: GeronL

ya...i just bet there was a 2 yr investigation..how about staged


9 posted on 04/28/2010 6:21:02 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: FreedomPoster
Our entire system collapses under the weight of the immoral .. "I can't remember, I don't recall"

As I recall .. I think it was Franklin who said .. (something like), "Our Republic is designed for a truthful and moral people"


Since I've REALLY started paying attention (around 1997/8 .. ), I have been amazed at the lack of response from people that could simply and quickly right a wrong .. ie, Secret service .. CIA .. etc.

I mean ... SOMEone could have told Janet Reno to pound sand .. or even arrested her.

10 posted on 04/28/2010 6:21:04 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: FreedomPoster

I knew this was a Ruse when I first read about it, would a class action lawsuit against the FBI and whoever else helped be out of the question?


11 posted on 04/28/2010 6:22:51 AM PDT by Hillbillary (I know how to deal with Communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Marty62

“Boy is this case thin, for a SWAT team action. Good Grief.”

And for such a widespread operation to arrest so few...


12 posted on 04/28/2010 6:26:32 AM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: Dutch Boy

Whatever happened to that whole “innocent until proven guilty” thing? Guess that doesn’t apply in obama’s Amerika.


13 posted on 04/28/2010 6:30:18 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: knarf

Christian terrorists? Yeah right, I’ll believe that as readily as “moral democrats”.


14 posted on 04/28/2010 6:30:48 AM PDT by Tail Gunner John
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To: Travis McGee; Jack Black; Squantos

Ping.


15 posted on 04/28/2010 6:30:55 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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FTA:

She [the lead FBI agent] said that because they were still being examined, she didn't know if weapons seized by investigators last month were illegal.

OMG, how dumb. It only takes a quick look at the receiver to see if a weapon is capable of full auto fire. For barrel length, it just takes a tape measure. This monstrosity is turning into a modern vesion of a typical Janet Reno mass satanic child sex abuse case, where there was no abuse at all.

16 posted on 04/28/2010 6:37:31 AM PDT by libstripper
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-- Boy is this case thin, for a SWAT team action. Good Grief. --

I don't think the SWAT team apprehension was inappropriate, per se. Good on the part of the law to avoid a barricaded-in situation.

But I still have a major problem with the government action. The charge that justified the raid in the first place is sedition, making war against the United States. The charge is based on an alleged plot to kill local law enforcement. The issue I have is based on the simple fact that getting over on local law enforcement is emphatically NOT waging war against the United States.

Not that I'm defending plans to get over on local law enforcement by way of deadly force, etc. - that sort of attitude is a problem, not uncommon among criminal gangs, etc. And even against federal agents, for example in the international narco-trade, or moonshining - none of those are elevated to the level of "waging war against the United States."

And that headline is the one sought. That "right wing militias aim to topple the US government by use of force."

17 posted on 04/28/2010 6:38:19 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: FreedomPoster
"She said that because they were still being examined, she didn't know if weapons seized by investigators last month were illegal. "

Failure to do those simple steps = incompetence or obstruction.

18 posted on 04/28/2010 6:41:51 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: FreedomPoster
Prosecutors fought to keep Ms. Larsen off the witness stand, saying the defendants had no legal right to question her. The nine lawyers asked specific questions about each defendant. Ms. Larsen said she had not listened entirely to certain recordings made by an undercover agent who infiltrated the group. She said that because they were still being examined, she didn't know if weapons seized by investigators last month were illegal. At other times, Ms. Larsen couldn't answer questions because she said she hadn't reviewed investigative reports.

Federal law enforcement appears to be as decrepit and incompetent as government in general.

19 posted on 04/28/2010 6:42:43 AM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: TXnMA

Yes, those are the two obvious things to check. If neither was mentioned as a violation, that means one of two things: the BATFE hasn’t yet succeeded in their usual efforts to cause a slam-fire - or they’re planning on using some other “gotcha” such as 922r parts count compliance.


20 posted on 04/28/2010 6:59:14 AM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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