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US Supreme Court Records ^ | 24 April 2010 | Self

Posted on 04/24/2010 9:18:10 AM PDT by Mr Rogers

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To: BuckeyeTexan
The sad thing is that you don't have the character to be ashamed of yourself.

Should I be ashamed to ask questions relating to the Constitution?

Should Mr. Lakin be ashamed to ask question about the Constitution, should YOU be ashamed to ask question about the Constitution??

Should anybody be ashamed to ask questions about your dear leader and criminal in the White House???

Just BUCK-OFF, you FINO!!!

381 posted on 04/29/2010 8:11:06 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: danamco; Candor7; LucyT; OldDeckHand; Jack Black; BuckeyeTexan

Yes, you did say that, and no, I’m not going to go back thru various posts to prove it.

Living under Hitler has nothing to do with living under Obama. If you think this is the equivalent of Germany in 1939...well, let your words reveal you.

President Obama deserves the same legal protections President GW Bush had - no more, no less. The law provides protection to the evil as well as the good, which is important. There were and are a lot of folks that want to call GWB evil and use the law to hunt him down...

What I have maintained and continue to maintain, and what is NOT traitorous to maintain, is that if Obama was born in Hawaii, then the phrase “natural born citizen” as applied by the courts includes him.

You do not have to agree with my assessment.

As for Lakin, he had orders to deploy and he refused to go. I deployed too often to have any stomach for people deciding which wars they want to support, or wanting to decide for themselves who is the President. The orders are backed by Congress when they funded the operation.

In the military, you don’t get to pick which orders to obey. IF THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY ILLEGAL - such as when I was ordered to falsify a legal document, or if someone orders you to commit a war crime - THEN you can refuse...but you always do so at your own risk.

There is nothing illegal about deploying to Afghanistan.

This is the equivalent of an officer in 2003 refusing to go to war because he didn’t think GWB REALLY won the election. Those aren’t decisions for the military, and I say that as a former military officer.

During Kosovo, I had folks on FR calling me a baby killer because I said that deployment was legally binding. So be it.

Now there are folks who think I’m a horrible person because I say Obama IS the President, and will be so until Congress removes him or there is another election. So be it.

But if y’all are right, then EVERY order given since Jan 2009 is illegal, and the entire military should just quit. That means you do not understand the role of the military in a democratic society. The Founders were FAR more afraid of the military choosing political leaders than they were of someone born in America becoming President, regardless of his parentage.


382 posted on 04/29/2010 8:32:58 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: danamco; BuckeyeTexan

“Should Mr. Lakin be ashamed to ask question about the Constitution...”

MISTER Lakin could ask anything he wants.

LIEUTENANT COLONEL Lakin doesn’t get to decide who is President, or the criteria for natural born citizen. The military doesn’t get to pick who they want to follow. That decision is made by the states, the voters, the Congress & the SCOTUS.

And the states put Obama on the ballot. The voters voted. The Electoral College voted. Congress certified Obama without ANY dissent, or objection from Palin or McCain. And the SCOTUS has already refused to hear a case about Obama’s father.


383 posted on 04/29/2010 8:37:35 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers

Did you take the Anthrax vaccine?


384 posted on 04/29/2010 9:26:40 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: danamco

Yes, and supported charges against a guy in our unit who refused. Didn’t like ‘em, didn’t think they were worth much, but...took them.

Also got smallpox and anthrax at the same time in one arm. My arm swelled up, and for several months I had a hard ridge like a pencil in my triceps. Went to see the doc, who was from Jamaica, and in a heavy accent he told me, “I do not think you will die...” It went away after 3 months.


385 posted on 04/29/2010 9:39:11 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers

“And the SCOTUS has already refused to hear a case about Obama’s father.”


You say this with such a gleeful happy “pride” and I’m sure you also popped the Champagne bottle at the same time!

It is no wonder that I said what I said, hmmmm!!

You saw that link didn’t you???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7qEH-tKoXA


386 posted on 04/29/2010 9:42:01 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: Mr Rogers
LIEUTENANT COLONEL Lakin doesn’t get to decide who is President

Really???

Barrock Hussein Obama

Hmmmm,...hmmmm...hmmmm!!!

387 posted on 04/29/2010 9:46:51 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: danamco

Actually, I thought the SCOTUS should have taken the case and formally ruled one way or the other. However, by refusing to take it, they accepted the idea that Obama was a natural born citizen IAW standard interpretations.


388 posted on 04/29/2010 9:47:14 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: danamco

Yes, really - a LTC doesn’t decide the election of President. You thought he did?


389 posted on 04/29/2010 9:47:56 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers
Yes,

All I need to know. It explains EVERYTHING!!!

390 posted on 04/29/2010 9:50:33 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: danamco

Yes, I know...on the USS Danamco, EVERYONE is a skipper!


391 posted on 04/29/2010 9:53:01 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers

Answer....see post 390. Night, Night!!!


392 posted on 04/29/2010 9:56:16 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: danamco

“Night, Night!!!”

Have the orderlies arrived with your meds?


393 posted on 04/29/2010 9:58:15 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers
Have the orderlies arrived with your meds?

Good morning!

I am glad you asked. If you call these meds(?), then YES!

They includes OPC-3, Acai, Multi-vitamin, Advanced Vitamin B-complex, Vitamin C, Resveratrol, all in an Isotonix form, and all of them in one "cocktail" in 14-oz of water, very first thing on an empty stomach every morning. Before bedtime, which you know is pretty late/early(?) I take one serving of Prime Secretagogue (HGH Enhancer) in 8-10 oz. water!!

At 79 I do all maintenance for our house, last year pressure cleaned exterior and painted with three coats. I just done our asphalt driveway with patching and two coats. You see my "meds" even helps to still having a little "fun" with my wonderful AMERICAN wife once in a while, yet my peeing is now a little slower than years ago. So the "meds" seems to be working pretty good for me.

Last week I gave blood at our church my readings were B-pres. 120/84. Temp. 96.8. Pulse 74. H-5'8". W-140 lbs. So all in all, yes I like them and it seems that my "meds" are working pretty good, even if I eat eggs and Buffalo meats and fish and have a beer or wine with it. No smoking, however!!!

How are your meds working for you???

394 posted on 04/30/2010 7:31:34 AM PDT by danamco (")
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To: Mr Rogers
As for Lakin, he had orders to deploy and he refused to go. I deployed too often to have any stomach for people deciding which wars they want to support, or wanting to decide for themselves who is the President. The orders are backed by Congress when they funded the operation.

You cannot compare Apples to Oranges!!!

Wen you took an Oath - if you did(?)- as an officer in the military, what did you swore to???

395 posted on 04/30/2010 8:27:06 AM PDT by danamco (")
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To: danamco

NO apples or oranges...is the deployment backed by the full government of the USA? Yes. Did he go? No. Did he resign his commission? No.

He wants to overrule the voters, Congress & the SCOTUS on who the President is, based on...Internet rantings. He’ll need more than your good wishes to keep him from losing, just as every other birther loses every case.


396 posted on 04/30/2010 8:39:19 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers
Since I have not served in the U.S. military, I just asked you a very simple question that I don't have the answer to, but you avoid that and start tap-dancing!!!

I don't sink that is a military secret or classified. So once more, if you took an Oath in the military, what was that Oath about and to whom or what did you swore???

397 posted on 04/30/2010 8:59:06 AM PDT by danamco (")
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To: danamco

I haven’t tap danced anything. The Constitution says ‘natural born citizen’, and by the definitions used by the courts, Obama qualifies.

That is how he was put on the ballot in 50 states, and why Congress certified him, and why the Supreme Court rejected a case brought against him.

That is how our government works. The military doesn’t choose the President. The Founders were far more afraid of a junta than they were of someone born in America with a British father.

But of course, you would have to pay attention to the Constitution and not just rant to understand that.


398 posted on 04/30/2010 9:03:51 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers

But of course, you would have to pay attention to the Constitution and not just rant to understand that.

Talking to yourself again I see....


399 posted on 04/30/2010 9:08:19 AM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: Mr Rogers

Mr. Rogers, could you please answer the simple question, so that we then can have an intelligent conversation, is that too much ask???


400 posted on 04/30/2010 9:30:06 AM PDT by danamco (")
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