Posted on 04/22/2010 4:33:30 PM PDT by wagglebee
I condemn it as a Catholic Institution because of the actions of its top man, and the apparent inaction of catholic leadership to replace him. This tells me they accept his actions. Actions which are an insult to “The Lady” the school is named after. Yes.
I retract the words. I was angry. Still am. But I apologize for them. Nevertheless, the wider Notre Dame family is one of the finest group of people in the world. And, by the way, they don’t have fraternities at Notre Dame. They are above that.
Some these days would say the same of the Pope. The wider Notre Dame family is one of the finest group of people in the world.
I retract the words. It was late and you made me angry. Still am. But I apologize for the words. Nevertheless, the wider Notre Dame family is one of the finest group of people in the world, full of thousands upon thousands of men and women who are full of much more love and understanding, broadmindedness and tolerance, dignity and class, than are so many on this web site.
I call BS. ND students and grads are some of the finest people I’ve met. They are mostly (two parent) upper middle class and have learned manners. The only other campus (I’ve been on & I’ve been on many) with comparable students is the Franciscan University Steubenville.
“ask any IU or Purdue fan about the nastiness of their fans during the games.”
It’s true they will arrest loud obnoxious drunks. Those people who were nasty to your IU and Purdue friends weren’t fans, they were police.
Which of my statements suggested otherwise? I've said on this thread that ND is a fine school, but they have embraced secularism.
who’s the snob here? The successful ND grad, or the envious critic?
What precisely am I envious of?
I have an uncle and a couple cousins who went to ND.
I was accepted to ND and decided not to go.
My family is very wealthy, I have been quite successful myself and I am definitely not envious of a Notre Dame graduate.
I think the better question is why are YOU so supportive of their current actions? Sure ND was a fine Catholic school in the past. Sure they still have daily mass. However, just last year they arrested people who were upset that they gave an award to a pro-abortion president. These people still face charges while other protesters have had charges dropped.
With a legacy like your father and you still couldn’t get in?
What did you do spend eight years in high school or murder a nun?
Or both?
BTW, you have certainly given a great deal of credence to Kimmer’s post!
>>> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2498632/posts?page=29#29
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>>Very well put!
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>Very shallow and short-sighted, actually.
Really? How is it shallow? How is it short-sighted?
Granted that I did say “Your defense of Notre Dame strikes me as a bit ‘second-hand’ and somewhat dated;” however, I am compelled to point out that the ‘strikes me’ portion clearly indicates a SUBJECTIVE viewing on my part.
Also, how is using the life of a character chronicled in the bible short-sighted? How was my analysis shallow? {Yes it was informal and not in-depth; but an overview or outline is not necessarily shallow.}
>It is a huge, world-wide community. You condemn it because of the actions of a few misguided men.
Where did I condemn anyone on this thread? If anything I only offered you a slight warning/rebuke, and that is hardly a condemnation.
Your reply contains the very contradictions others are bemoaning -- Notre Dame has changed 180 degrees since your father's meritorious time. It is one thing to be considered elite by others because of your dedication, training and heroism. It is quite another to consider oneself elite because your parents paid for you to attend school where giants once walked.
Just dayum!
>>>>The wider Notre Dame family is one of the finest group of people in the world.<<<<
I dont doubt that for one minute. They should be putting pressure on Jenkins to drop the charges against real Catholics.
The Blessed Mother is more than a character in the Bible. To me she is immortal , a figure appointed by God to ear his child, a diety ordained by God. It is sinful for her name to be used at an institution that honors the greatest proponent of abortion in the Government today.
If that is short-sighted and shallow, then call me short sighted and shallow. It wont hurt me in the least.
I think you misunderstood my post... I was using ‘>’ to indicate quoted text previously on the thread. [In the case of ‘>>>’ though, I merely included the link to that post.]
Ping!
No problem.
the worst persecution of all will probably come from “the Church.”
The relative wealth of a man’s family has nothing to do with his character. I thought it was Conservatives who were always denoucing class warfare. In any event, half the students at Notre Dame are on some sort of financial aid. A large number have earned scholarships. And most, being at or near the top of their high school classes, have already earned their “elite” status by means of their hard work to get where they are. Just so you know, envy is one of the seven deadly sins.
Hardly. No need to insult me. Notre Dame’s is one of the most difficult admissions offices in the country. I attended a very fine school, myself, thank you very much.
Well you just are ever so damn welcome!
BTW, after meeting you I am even less impressed with your almost Alma mater.
Dear fellow, I am Ivy League, graduate honors. Being envious of Notre Dame undergraduates, bless their hearts, had never crossed my mind.
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