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Posted on 04/21/2010 9:00:46 AM PDT by anymouse
Kevin, you can attest to Dr. Zubrin’s credibility. How about a ping for the space list.
Obama misses the Chicago bath houses? hah!
Nothing comes out of 0bama’s mouth except lies and obfuscation.
The creep hates American achievement.
Zubrin down, George Noory equivocal, next shoe to drop will be Richard Hoagland’s multi-dimensional physics.
Zero is a one termer.
NASA is nothing more than a tool for perpetuating union make work jobs and anti-capitalist environmental dimwits.
Its a crying shame that ALL Future US astronauts has to hitch a ride from the commie Russians is a TOTAL NATIONAL DISGRACE and should be an impeachable offense!!
Defund NASA?
Uh...
NO.
In the strongest terms.
Why?
The nations that lead on the frontiers, dictate the course of human history.
Restore NASA in full to what it’s mission is.
Bump what you said
Just the title is awesome though.
Zubrin is eccentric but he knows this stuff.
Restore NASA in full to what it’s mission is.You mean was.
The nations that lead on the frontiers, dictate the course of human history.
LOL! Oh. frontiers like man made global warming, man made holes in the ozone, greenhouse gas emissions?...Do you even know that was all a product of NASA? NASA is the birthplace of the global warming hysteria
We don't have the money to piss away at some frigg'n "international space station" with nothing to show for it except to be told how evil we are for driving SUVs.
Defund NASA and defund it NOW!
Your seriously ignorant of the big picture of what NASA accomplishes for this nation.
Hint...
Jim Hansen and climate studies do not define the agency.
The astronauts still do, exploration of the solar system still does, and that human presence beyond earth still does. Many of them are US military pilots by the way.
Nations that shrink from the frontiers.. stagnate and die.
Also your battle cry of “defund” is never going to happen. Never. THere is no political reality to that cause. It won’t happen. The fight is to keep NASA in the human exploration game.
By the way, we could stop spending all NASA funds tomorrow.
It wouldn’t make much of an impact... It’s one half of one penny on federal discretionary spending.
So small it wouldn’t matter at all or be noticed.
One half of one penny.
So your view of NASA is terribly incorrect, and your cry to “defund now” is useless rhetoric in the big picture even if it were to happen.
Some people are anti-science or humans achieving things. AQ types, the left, and some on the far right. They range from dangerous to kooks.
Zubrin nails it.
Not only that, but after spending $100 billion, there’ll be a basis for some political imbecile in the future to claim “we gave them the money, they took us nowhere. Time to call space a failure and climb back into the womb, where there are so many important problems to solve.”
There is no limit to the amount of money that can be wasted to produce no result. Space development’s past is testimony to that. NLS/ALS (80s and 90s Saturn-class launch systems), Shuttle C (cargo shuttle), X-30/NASP (National Aerospace Plane), Orbital Space Plane, to name a few.
The problem isn’t technology, it’s organization. When a course is chosen, and supported with the money it takes to actually make it work, the impossible becomes possible. Apollo was a lot cheaper than the Mission to Nowhere that Zero is proposing.
If the money Pres. Zilch is promising were spent properly, we could put a base on the Moon _and_ build the infrastructure to support it (data relay satellites around the Moon, in-situ resource utilization, etc.) Coincidentally, we’d be preparing ourselves for the missions he’s talking about, but kicked down the road beyond any point of accountability for himself.
I know.
Sometimes there are things that transcend politics.
A bigger picture. I think it is easy for people to paint themselves into a corner eventually arguing to extremes. The views can become myopic and thinking can becoming utterly inflexible to any further information.
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