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Obama orders same-sex hospital visits (for hospitals accepting Medicare/Medicaid)
MSNBC ^ | 4/15/2010 | Michael D. Shear/wp

Posted on 04/16/2010 3:37:33 AM PDT by tobyhill

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To: tobyhill

King Ears exerting his power.

Hmmm. Maybe government control of health care in any shape or form is bad.

Yeah, I do think seniors need to get over the idea that Medicare is good for them.

Oh well, you’ll probably agree when the death panels determine you are not paying enough taxes to warrant medical treatment.

Such compassion.


41 posted on 04/16/2010 5:31:15 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (A government big enough to do unto the people you don't like will get to doing unto you soon enough.)
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To: heye2monn

“Religious hospitals are a big target of this rule.”

That’s the deal. Barry O wants to force the Catholic hospitals out of the system or to compromise with their beliefs.


42 posted on 04/16/2010 5:32:44 AM PDT by BenKenobi ("we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be")
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

That is what the people who voted for him voted for. Let then enjoy it.


43 posted on 04/16/2010 5:34:14 AM PDT by sport
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To: BenKenobi

The catholic hospitals should have some spine and shut down if they are going to be forced to do things that are against their conscience.


44 posted on 04/16/2010 5:34:53 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (A government big enough to do unto the people you don't like will get to doing unto you soon enough.)
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To: MichiganConservative

How about we stand up for their religious liberty instead?


45 posted on 04/16/2010 5:35:51 AM PDT by BenKenobi ("we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be")
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To: tobyhill

If the victim has not designee, then it will be next of kin. Believe me, there WILL BE documentation that guides the hands of the health care team.


46 posted on 04/16/2010 5:37:09 AM PDT by brwnsuga (Black and Free!!!)
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To: BenKenobi
How about we stand up for their religious liberty instead?

Cool. Shut down your hospital. Or rescind Ears' order.

They are the only ones in position to stop doing what they do when their rights or conscience are infringed. Same as you're the only one in position to do it for you.

I assume you don't control a large chunk of the nations hospitals. If they were to be abused to the point of shutting down in response, then that would send a large message. If the people are too stupid to understand the message, well, the people tend to get what they deserve.

And the people are usually very stupid.

47 posted on 04/16/2010 5:42:29 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (A government big enough to do unto the people you don't like will get to doing unto you soon enough.)
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To: tobyhill
the problem is the Government forcing hospitals to give consent authorization to non-related non-married

No. Only to some non-related non-married couples. Only given to same sex couples. Straight couples don't get this privilege.

48 posted on 04/16/2010 5:45:00 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: tobyhill

The first time a non-contracted “partner” makes a medical decision that kills or maims a patient, there will be a lawsuit against the hospital for not following the law.

Because even the President can’t give people the right to break the law, unless he’s including a blanket pardon and a guarantee of tax dollar backing for lawsuits.

There is a reason that hospitals have rules about family members; and those reasons apply just as much to gay people.


49 posted on 04/16/2010 5:46:30 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
That story still makes me mad. From Wikipedia:
John Balcerzak and Joseph Gabrish, two of the three police officers who returned Sinthasomphone to Dahmer, were fired from the Milwaukee Police Department after their actions were widely publicized, including an audiotape of the officers making homophobic statements to their dispatcher and cracking jokes about having reunited the "lovers". The two officers appealed their termination and were reinstated with back pay. They were named officers of the year by the police union for fighting a "righteous" battle to regain their jobs. Balcerzak later served a term as president of the Milwaukee Police Association
"Officers of the year" -- that's Unions for you.
50 posted on 04/16/2010 5:51:54 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: MichiganConservative

“I assume you don’t control a large chunk of the nations hospitals. If they were to be abused to the point of shutting down in response, then that would send a large message. If the people are too stupid to understand the message, well, the people tend to get what they deserve.”

Horsehockey. It’s up to us to speak out against Barry O, and express our opposition to his change. I don’t want to see a significant portion of the US hospitals shut down, and I’m presuming you don’t understand just how significant the Catholic system is in the US.

Why play into Barry O’s hands? Let’s fight him tooth or nail. Unless of course you really don’t care all that much about liberty.


51 posted on 04/16/2010 5:52:27 AM PDT by BenKenobi ("we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be")
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To: brwnsuga
It gave me pause, but I can’t scream “murderers don’t get Viagra!”

And thanks to the Democrats, the child molestor's viagra will be bought and paid for by your tax dollars.

52 posted on 04/16/2010 5:53:19 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: tobyhill

Ridiculous. This accomplishes nothing. People already have the ability to assign durable power of attorney for medical access / decisions to whomever they wish.


53 posted on 04/16/2010 5:53:35 AM PDT by Sloth (Civil disobedience? I'm afraid only the uncivil kind is going to cut it this time.)
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To: ladyjane

I was trying to make sure I didn’t single out the 2% gay population that’s taking over 100% of our institutions.


54 posted on 04/16/2010 6:14:12 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: Sloth

but if they didn’t and are in no position to immediately do so, this leaves a legal issue between actual relatives and “partners” which also puts unwarranted legal issues on the hospitals.


55 posted on 04/16/2010 6:17:11 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
You're a good person!
56 posted on 04/16/2010 6:30:22 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: tobyhill

I’d just like to know: how can he order private Catholic hospitals to do this? What about the 1st Amendment? Free exercise, hello?


57 posted on 04/16/2010 8:12:23 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer ("It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself." --Jefferson)
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To: pgyanke
Just like the schools are concerned about educating children?

My students are very well educated.

Cheers!

58 posted on 04/16/2010 1:51:28 PM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: tobyhill
This is all BS no hospital I worked at kept out any homosexual or lesbian from visiting...Had a patient with both a girlfriend and boyfriend...We nurses would sit at the nursing station and wonder how he kept both visiting him without ever meeting each other...10 minutes after one would leave, the other would show up...BFD. No one cared or tried to intervene. A medical power of attorney takes care of the right to make decisions on the part of the patient....And that was back in the 1980;s...This is a straw dog or red herring to jack up some hostility....Stupid beyond belief..

I guess these people need a new victimology to blab about..

59 posted on 04/16/2010 2:08:32 PM PDT by goat granny
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I just wrote about a hospital I worked at and this straw dog policy. It was at a Catholic hospital...They don’t care about who visits. Legally all that is needed for decisions is a medical power of attorney...But visiting outside of visiting hours is a big no no unless for a legit reason..


60 posted on 04/16/2010 2:11:26 PM PDT by goat granny
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