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What Is American Corporatism? (Ron Paul Is Actually Correct: Obama Is A Corporatist
Front Page Magazine ^ | 9/13/2002 | Robert Locke

Posted on 04/15/2010 6:52:37 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
It should still be here, but sadly it isn’t. Not much left of that anymore.

Which is the perfect segue for my next question which is why? Why do we citizens continue to allow that to be the case? Are we some how prevented from correcting it?

61 posted on 04/15/2010 8:04:03 AM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: Canedawg; MNJohnnie
Like any other word, it depends on the definition used. Mussolini said: “Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism.”

It also depends on your objective in using the word. If your intent is to warn people about an imminent danger, you use the word they can immediately grasp and focus on.

However, if you merely want to preen and strut as political theater for your admiring fans you use the clever "erudite" word so they'll all praise your sophistication.

62 posted on 04/15/2010 8:05:27 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

excellent post and thread!

I agree that Paul uses this term (corporatist) in order to get folks to listen and consider, rather than just roll their eyes, as they would at the term fascist.

I must admit that I do not understand all the Ron Paul hate around here. The man will never make it any further than Representative from his district; he’s no threat in that regard.

Right now, he is the best weapon the Right has against ObamaLand. He’s scoring point after point against them, and waking up the sheep, to an extent. He’s very useful in that regard. And he is right about many things.

What did Reagan say (and he was probably quoting someone else), a man who agrees with me 80% of the time is my friend, and not 20% my enemy?

Fiscal responsibility of the government has to come first these days, it is of prime importance. I do not agree with Ron Paul on everything he says and stands for, but I admire the stand he has taken against the Fed and Obama, and his attempt to drag it all out into the light of day.


63 posted on 04/15/2010 8:05:46 AM PDT by Clarence
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

keep 4 later


64 posted on 04/15/2010 8:06:14 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (To argue witha person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I think he is a Communist temporarily playing a Corporatist game . . . until he runs the table.


65 posted on 04/15/2010 8:06:55 AM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Wrong guy.

Never attacked Ron Paul. Certainly would never call the fellow, or any other, names. Recheck please.

66 posted on 04/15/2010 8:08:11 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Obama. He'll bring back States' Rights. In the meantime, this ain't gonna be pretty.)
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To: ansel12

Since the media yesterday was all over Rasmussen Reports poll concerning a head to head match up between the two and the results (Obama 42%, Paul 41%), and since most of the media articles pointed out that Paul said that Obama is a corporatist, adding Ron Paul after the ( in the title was appropriate.

And it isn’t my fault that some here throw the baby out with the bath water and have knee jerk reactions to what he says and are not willing to give himn a chance just because of one pretty much one thing whether they will admit it or not: Paul’s foreign policy.

There are many other issues besides foreign policy.

Bush was right on his foreign policy, but wrong when it came to his big government prescription drug policy, his big government approach to education, his big spending on federal programs and so on. Paul is right on those issues, so why won’t people here give him a chance?


67 posted on 04/15/2010 8:09:42 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Kenny Bunk

Please show which laissez-faire capitalists that liked it then. I know of none.


68 posted on 04/15/2010 8:13:32 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

You nailed it. The RINO’s, not the true conservatives in the GOP, are in fact corporatists themselves.


69 posted on 04/15/2010 8:17:16 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Bush was right on his foreign policy, but wrong when it came to his big government prescription drug policy, his big government approach to education, his big spending on federal programs and so on. Paul is right on those issues, so why won’t people here give him a chance?

I totally agree; Ron Paul is correct about a lot of domestic issues. He's a libertarian though, and there are many here who hate libertarians more than they do liberal Democrats.

They will not even listen or consider what he has to say, and just start name calling, which is fairly anti-productive. Politics is consensus building, and much of what Paul believes in is rock solid conservatism.

70 posted on 04/15/2010 8:17:53 AM PDT by Clarence
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I was going to ask the same thing. It was the progressives that loved fascism and still do. Not laissez-faire capitalists.


71 posted on 04/15/2010 8:19:39 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

If you read KEYNES AT HARVARD by Dobbs, THE ROAD AHEAD by John T. Flynn*, or THE FABIAN FREEWAY by Rose Martin* (as well as numerous other publications tracing the history of Fabian socialism), you will understand that “corporatism” is just another name for socialism. Corporatism was the original strategy of the Fabian Socialists and the manner in which they took over Britain. It is the way they are now doing the same to the USA.

*available for FREE at the Von Mises Institute


72 posted on 04/15/2010 8:20:06 AM PDT by Madam Theophilus
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To: Clarence

Ron Paul is not liked because he is a nut-job when it comes to foreign policy and continually distorts the Founders on the foreign policy issue as well.


73 posted on 04/15/2010 8:21:12 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
BTW, Obamacare is corporatism.

Bingo!

74 posted on 04/15/2010 8:21:33 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: tarheelswamprat
What do you think was Paul's objective in using that word?

Using various "isms" to describe Ozero can dilute the message, especially when one takes a word with which most are generally unfamiliar.

The MSM systematically suppressed the first great opposition poster, and I am surprised at how many of the apathetic or librul persuasion have not seen it when i show it to them.

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He is a Marxist, as Mark Levin regularly stresses, and socialism is a manifestation of Marxism.
75 posted on 04/15/2010 8:22:42 AM PDT by Canedawg (I'm not digging this tyranny thing.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

What’s the difference between a corporatist and a corporate suck-up?


76 posted on 04/15/2010 8:24:42 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Kenny Bunk

My apologies.

I saw your post and somehow took it that you were saying those things because I missed the part about stockpirate calling him rupaul.

Again, my apologies.


77 posted on 04/15/2010 8:26:17 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: stockpirate

Why render your arguments null and avoid by attacking the messenger (Ron Paul) by calling him names (RuPaul) via an ad hominem attack (personal attack/name-calling)?


78 posted on 04/15/2010 8:27:57 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Okay, Ron Paul is dead wrong, Obama is a facsist.


79 posted on 04/15/2010 8:29:44 AM PDT by stockpirate ("......When the government fears the people you have liberty." Thomas Jefferson)
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I believe him to be a dedicated Marxist using our capitalist system in an abusive manner...call it corporatism if you like...the goal is Marxism.


80 posted on 04/15/2010 8:36:05 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Let hot tar wash their throats and may it flow freely.)
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