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Tea Party Movement Spreads To Military
tpmmuckraker ^ | 4/12/2010 | Zachary Roth

Posted on 04/13/2010 2:30:50 PM PDT by rxsid

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To: fr_freak
Each member swears an oath to defend the Constitution against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic.

..thats it in a nut shell, foreign and domestic

41 posted on 04/13/2010 3:35:43 PM PDT by Doogle (IT'S THAT TIME AGAIN....donate, because it's the RIGHT thing to do)
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To: DoughtyOne

Don’t forget, our military is made up of average American people. They’ve already formed their opinions, just as we have.

And yes, they’re just as passionate and polarized as the rest of us.

They *are* the rest of us.


42 posted on 04/13/2010 3:59:36 PM PDT by Marie (Obama seems to think that Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel since Camp David, not King David)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
Excerpt:

The Tea Party movement has gained a foothold in the armed forces.

A new Tea Party group, Armed Forces Tea Party Patriots, has grown quickly since being launched last month by an active duty Marine Corps sergeant. The group, which vows to "stand up on the very soil we defended to preserve common sense conservatism and defend our Constitution that is threatened by a tyrannical government," currently has over 400 members, who have signed up through its Facebook page, though many are not active duty military. And it has close ties to the broader Tea Party movement.

"People in the military need to be heard," the group's prime organizer, Gary Stein -- a Marine Corps sergeant stationed at Camp Pendleton in southern California -- told TPMmuckraker in an interview. "Our opinions do count."

Thanks for the heads up on this one, ExTexasRedhead

43 posted on 04/13/2010 4:01:42 PM PDT by nutmeg (Bart Stupak: Judas, Neville Chamberlain or Benedict Arnold? All of the above, and Good Riddance!)
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To: rxsid

ping


44 posted on 04/13/2010 4:04:13 PM PDT by rfreedom4u (Should I fly my flag at half staff now?)
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To: KoRn

I was in while the first dumbass was in.(carter) And I had a DI that would let anybody know what he thought of that idiot and that included the Officers over him.He was one hell of a guy now that I look back on him.


45 posted on 04/13/2010 4:09:28 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: rxsid
Whether or not he's "legally" a citizen or not, I think in his mind he's not a citizen. I heard a speech from Sasquatch Shelly where she referred to Kenya as "Baracks home country". I also remember an AP article which called then Senator Obama "The first Kenyan born Senator in the US Senate".

So while I'm sure an army of leftist lawyers can cobble together proof of his meeting the citizenship requirement to be president, I don't think he personally sees himself as a US citizen.

46 posted on 04/13/2010 4:10:24 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: rxsid

The Tea Party is based on Principles, not Parties. Therefore it should not be considered a Political movement.


47 posted on 04/13/2010 4:14:37 PM PDT by dbrew2u
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To: La Enchiladita
Something doesn’t smell right about this. I thought it was strictly verboten for active duty military to be politically active or vocal on issues. They need all the focus on the job at hand.

I was in during "The Great Stainmakers" administration and the way I understood the policy was you can be politically active but under no circumstances can you appear at a political event in uniform or endorse any position as a member of the military. In short, you can go to a tea party, but not in uniform.

48 posted on 04/13/2010 4:17:22 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: YankeeReb
"So while I'm sure an army of leftist lawyers can cobble together proof of his meeting the citizenship requirement to be president,"

I'm not sure how they could do that, unless of course they show that Obama Sr. (the foreigner) was not his legal father. Although, then there would be the issue of a falsified government document that is prominently displayed on his very own campaign web site (& of course a whole bunch of egg on the true believers face that the short form was legit).

49 posted on 04/13/2010 4:20:51 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: YankeeReb
"In short, you can go to a tea party, but not in uniform."

Bingo! Precisely the point. I may have missed it, but no where in that article does it say the group is having a tea party event(s) on base, or in uniform. It simply says that a group of people, who happen to be active military, have formed their own group to express and have their opinions heard.

50 posted on 04/13/2010 4:24:16 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

BO/BS has a growing tiger by the tail.


51 posted on 04/13/2010 4:40:19 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: FrankR

I dare say the military personnel had better not wear their uniform at these tea parties..they are to be non political in that aspect.
As to the LtCol, he is challenging the the birth certificate of 0bama where as it sounds as though the focus of this Sgt is on support and defending the Constitution not on 0bama directly. Just a hunch.


52 posted on 04/13/2010 5:01:10 PM PDT by celtic gal
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To: rxsid
Military personnel do not live in a democracy. There are certain things that they cannot do in uniform...
If they attend a rally, for example, they may attend the event but may not do so in uniform.
53 posted on 04/13/2010 5:06:11 PM PDT by celtic gal
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To: celtic gal

I’m sure you’re correct, but as a veteran, it ticks me off anyway.


54 posted on 04/13/2010 5:15:37 PM PDT by FrankR (Those of us who love AMERICA far outnumber those who love obama - your choice.)
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To: DTogo
What happens if the President gives an order that is against The Constitution?

Where does the loyalty lie then?

55 posted on 04/13/2010 5:23:04 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: Churchillspirit
What happens if the President gives an order that is against The Constitution?

A Lieutenant in Washington named Ehren Watada decided that the war was unconstitutional and an order to deploy to Iraq was illegal. A court martial found otherwise. A specialist named Michael New decided that an order to wear a UN patch on his uniform was illegal. A court martial found otherwise in that case as well. The military takes a dim view of servicemen who decide for themselves what orders are legal and what are not.

56 posted on 04/13/2010 5:27:39 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: celtic gal
"Military personnel do not live in a democracy. There are certain things that they cannot do in uniform... If they attend a rally, for example, they may attend the event but may not do so in uniform.

Well, none of use live in a "democracy." We live in a Constitutional republic. Or, at least...we used to.

As for this issue of the "military" tea party members, see my post #50!

It appears that some people jumped to the conclusion that either
1) these tea party members (who happen to be active duty military) were having their "meetings" or gathers while in uniform and/or on base (I'm unable to locate such an allegation from the article posted)
and/or
2) some people believe that (while NOT in uniform) that members of the military are not permitted to participate in the political process or belong to a "movement" such as a tea party group.

57 posted on 04/13/2010 5:30:07 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Non-Sequitur
Thank you for your reply.

A tough time to be serving in the US military.

58 posted on 04/13/2010 5:37:01 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: rxsid

I tried to find this guy’s facebook page but only found one with 2 members? Has he been silenced by his command?


59 posted on 04/13/2010 5:42:07 PM PDT by NurseZac
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To: NurseZac
"I tried to find this guy’s facebook page but only found one with 2 members? Has he been silenced by his command?"

Good question.

From the article:

"Stein's political activism seems to have raised some concern among his superiors. Late last month, he wrote online: "Was just told by a Marine Corps Officer to watch what I say about Obama... I think not..." And later that same day: "I was just told to keep my opinons (sic) to myself about Obama, by my Officer-in-Charge (OIC).

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And Eugene Fidell, who teaches military law at Yale Law School, told TPMmuckraker that taking a leadership role with any political group is "problematic." But Fidell added that the military is usually loath to prosecute such acts, for fear of creating political martyrs."

Is the Tea Party considered a "political group" or a movement? Who, or what, is the "leader" of the Tea Party? What...really, is the tea party? Can it be defined, precisely?

60 posted on 04/13/2010 5:47:49 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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