Posted on 04/12/2010 10:30:40 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
Sorcery = Drug dealing.
Yet it’s ok for us to enter into deals that allow the other party to use tariffs against us? You prefer the income tax?
I most certainly do. a 10% income tax and a land tax are the only two major taxes we need. All other taxes should be abolished and we should never have tariffs. Tariffs only hurt the contries that institute them, they create inefficiencies. Biblically, the income tax is the tithe...10%. During the Judges the tithe was the tax since the government was ran through the temples. The land tax is equal to the gleaning and the set-aside programs.
Government cannot legislate morality.
Spoken like a true Libertarian.
People have to do that. Do you want alcohol abolished too? What good did that server last time?
Jesus drank wine. A substance hould be either legal or illegal, not a revenue generator. Alcohol good, heroine bad. Let's have a referendum...alcohol would stay legal, illegal drugs would stay illegal.
That’s laughable. Seriously laughable. It did NOT SUCH THING. In fact, they’ve become emboldened since 9-11.
No major attacks anywhere against us since 9-11...it was a total success.
The Bible - particularly the New Testement - informs my basic opinions. Are you familiar with the concept of “free will?”
Certainly. Should people have free will to commit murder? Walk naked in the streets? Or do other obscene things in the streets as long as they don't hurt other people? This is where Libertarianism breaks down...there has to be order.
I’m the one who first brought up the ‘93 WTC attack, sparky. OKC was CONUS, but you have not proven it was Saddam. The USS Cole was definitely NOT CONUS.
You brought up CONUS, not I. I said we haven't been attacked since 9-11. I'm not giving you a history lesson on OKC. You claim to know terrorism...if you don't know that Saddam was behind OKC you don't know squat.
Not in CONUS, they didn’t. The certainly didn’t stop OCOCUS after he became President.
What does CONUS have to do with it? Tell me one major terrorist attack against us since 9-11.
So, inviting the Saudis here and putting CAIR in with the FBI HELPED SECURITY? Are you nuts?
Legal immigration has never been eliminated. The Patriot Act got them under control.
You dismiss my claims regarding the Saudi backing of the Jihad - something I can prove easily - yet expect me to just accept that Saddam was behind the OKC bombing. I’m familiar with the theory that there was MUSLIM involvement in that attack, but Saddam? Prove it.
I don't give history lessons to Libertarians. You guys are irreconcilable because you can't see reality. If you don't know about Saddam's involvement in OKC, you know nothing about terrorism and you are a useful idiot to the MSM and the traitors in high places in this country.
“Sorcery = Drug dealing.”
Uh, no. Not unless you count alcohol in with that.
” All other taxes should be abolished and we should never have tariffs. “
Tariffs were the only means of government income for before the last hundred years. Income taxes and land taxes push the theory that the government owns your income and your land.
“Spoken like a true Libertarian.”
Spoken like someone who understands what Jefferson had in mind. No nation has ever managed to legislate morality without becoming a tyranny in the process. Can’t be done.
“Jesus drank wine. A substance hould be either legal or illegal, not a revenue generator. Alcohol good, heroine bad. Let’s have a referendum...alcohol would stay legal, illegal drugs would stay illegal.”
I’m betting you are Church of Christ. Am I right?
“No major attacks anywhere against us since 9-11...it was a total success.”
Why attack when they can just take over? There are Muslim military training camps all over the country. They use threats and lawyers to shut up those critical of them. Oh, yes.... “WE” are really winning the war....
“Certainly. Should people have free will to commit murder? “
I see you miss the point in the New Testement.
“You brought up CONUS, not I. I said we haven’t been attacked since 9-11. I’m not giving you a history lesson on OKC. You claim to know terrorism...if you don’t know that Saddam was behind OKC you don’t know squat.”
If you don’t restrict the list to CONUS, you seriously lose your claim that we haven’t been attacked in all those years..... Tie Saddam to OKC. Go ahead.
“Legal immigration has never been eliminated. The Patriot Act got them under control.”
Legal immigration has been limited and STOPPED from enemy states in times of war past. The Patriot Act got the governor of NJ arrested, but has not “got them under control” at all. The FBI is on CAIR’s SIDE.
“I don’t give history lessons to Libertarians. “
Someone needs to give you one.
What does a Libertarian know about the bible? The root for sorcery in the bible is pharmakea...a drug dealer.
Tariffs were the only means of government income for before the last hundred years. Income taxes and land taxes push the theory that the government owns your income and your land.
And tariffs don't? Tariffs are job killers.
Spoken like someone who understands what Jefferson had in mind. No nation has ever managed to legislate morality without becoming a tyranny in the process. Can’t be done.
Where've you been for 244 years. We've always legislated morality.
I’m betting you are Church of Christ. Am I right?
I've never spent 1 minute in a church besides weddings and whatnot. I'm of the church of reading the bible and figuring out what it says...and there are a lot of us that do it that way.
Why attack when they can just take over? There are Muslim military training camps all over the country. They use threats and lawyers to shut up those critical of them. Oh, yes.... “WE” are really winning the war....
That's what I've been saying...the Patriot Act worked. We're not winning the war now that there is a Muslim in the White House and he ended the Bush policies. A major attack is on the way in all likelihood.
If you don’t restrict the list to CONUS, you seriously lose your claim that we haven’t been attacked in all those years.....
What does CONUS have to do with it if we haven't been attacked in either?
Tie Saddam to OKC. Go ahead.
Like I said and like most who may be unfortunate enough to read this exchange, Saddam was behind OKC and the fact that you don't know that proves you don't know squat about terrorism.
Legal immigration has been limited and STOPPED from enemy states in times of war past. The Patriot Act got the governor of NJ arrested, but has not “got them under control” at all. The FBI is on CAIR’s SIDE.
Legal immigration has never been ended. The fact that there have been no major attacks against us since 9-11 prove that the Patriot Act kept american Muslims under control.
I see you couldn't name a major terrorist attack since 9-11. lol
“What does a Libertarian know about the bible?”
What a thoroughly un-Christian statement.
“The root for sorcery in the bible is pharmakea...a drug dealer.”
So, your view is that Walgreens is a den of sorcery. It’s the abuse of substances that is a sin to the point when it becomes what you worship, not the substance itself.
“And tariffs don’t? Tariffs are job killers.”
Not always and not necessarily.
“I’ve never spent 1 minute in a church besides weddings and whatnot. I’m of the church of reading the bible and figuring out what it says...and there are a lot of us that do it that way.”
You missed that whole “fellowship” thing, then.
“That’s what I’ve been saying...the Patriot Act worked. We’re not winning the war now that there is a Muslim in the White House and he ended the Bush policies. A major attack is on the way in all likelihood.”
We weren’t winning the war BEFORE Obama. That is what I SAID. Try reading.
“Saddam was behind OKC and the fact that you don’t know that proves you don’t know squat about terrorism.”
You miss that the Saudis are funding the global Jihad, but somehow think an unproven factoid concerning Saddam and one attack is true.
“Legal immigration has never been ended. The fact that there have been no major attacks against us since 9-11 prove that the Patriot Act kept american Muslims under control.”
It has been restricted in time of war - when we had leaders who weren’t liberal idiots, actual importation at OUR expense of Muslims is not “immigration”, and it has NOT KEPT THEM UNDER CONTROL.
“I see you couldn’t name a major terrorist attack since 9-11. lol”
I guess you’ve missed all those terrorist attacks on US targets in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Libertarianism and Christianity approach a lot of subjects with opposing points of view, don't they?
So, your view is that Walgreens is a den of sorcery. It’s the abuse of substances that is a sin to the point when it becomes what you worship, not the substance itself.
Most people don't go to Walgreens to enter an alternate state of mind or reality. Scorcery is the word, remember, you gotta use common sense when discussing these things.
Not always and not necessarily.
Tariffs are just as intrusive as an income tax and a land tax. If they are equally as intrusive then the taxes that do the most good and the least harm economically are the ones to go with and nothing good comes from a tariff.
You missed that whole “fellowship” thing, then.
Oh, I fellowship, no doubt about it. I told you there are a lot of us out here. I prefer to fellowship with those that want to learn about the bible, not those that only want to take my money or talk about how sinful the neighbors are.
We weren’t winning the war BEFORE Obama. That is what I SAID. Try reading.
No major attacks against us since 9-11 prove you wrong.
You miss that the Saudis are funding the global Jihad, but somehow think an unproven factoid concerning Saddam and one attack is true.
All Muslims fund global jihad, that's why money is called currency. The Patriot Act kept American Muslims under control. Saddam did more than one attack..he was in on OKC, 9-11, and maybe '93 WTC.
It has been restricted in time of war - when we had leaders who weren’t liberal idiots, actual importation at OUR expense of Muslims is not “immigration”, and it has NOT KEPT THEM UNDER CONTROL.
Then name one major attack against us since 9-11, there are none. We had one a year before the Patriot Act.
I guess you’ve missed all those terrorist attacks on US targets in Iraq and Afghanistan?
War zones? Is that all you have? lol Name any major one.
“Libertarianism and Christianity approach a lot of subjects with opposing points of view, don’t they?”
You do realize that it was YOUR statement I was calling “un-Christian”, right?
“Most people don’t go to Walgreens to enter an alternate state of mind or reality. Scorcery is the word, remember, you gotta use common sense when discussing these things.”
They do drink alcohol for the same purpose.
” I told you there are a lot of us out here. I prefer to fellowship with those that want to learn about the bible, not those that only want to take my money or talk about how sinful the neighbors are.”
Obviously, you haven’t been to many churches.
“No major attacks against us since 9-11 prove you wrong.”
Training camps free to operate and legal intimidation given free reign prove I’m right.
“All Muslims fund global jihad, that’s why money is called currency. The Patriot Act kept American Muslims under control. Saddam did more than one attack..he was in on OKC, 9-11, and maybe ‘93 WTC. “
The Patriot Act did no such thing and you still haven’t proven that Saddam was the source of all this.
“Then name one major attack against us since 9-11, there are none. We had one a year before the Patriot Act.”
You miss the war?
“War zones? Is that all you have? lol Name any major one.”
Yes “war zones”. The whole WORLD is a “war zone”.
Yes, I said what does a Libertarian know about Christianity. Doesn't Libertarianism and Christianity approach a lot of subjects with opposing points of view?
They do drink alcohol for the same purpose.
Alcohol is not associated with the word pharmakea, that is drugs.
Obviously, you haven’t been to many churches.
Thank goodness.
Training camps free to operate and legal intimidation given free reign prove I’m right.
Trained for 9 years to do nothing? Proof the Patriot Act worked.
The Patriot Act did no such thing and you still haven’t proven that Saddam was the source of all this.
No major attacks since 9-11 prove that Patriot Act worked. We had one a year before that. I don't give history lessons to idiots. You can't even admit that we haven't had a major attack since 9-11, so why should I waste my time to someone who refuses to see reality.
You miss the war?
Now you're just being a dumbass.
Yes “war zones”. The whole WORLD is a “war zone”.
Libertarians cannot isceuss anything truthfully because they are on the wrong side of just about everything. Your posts are devolving in crap-posts.
“Yes, I said what does a Libertarian know about Christianity. Doesn’t Libertarianism and Christianity approach a lot of subjects with opposing points of view?”
What do YOU know about Christianity? Oh, BTW... your statement is false.
“Alcohol is not associated with the word pharmakea, that is drugs.”
It’s a drug. Try again.
“Trained for 9 years to do nothing? Proof the Patriot Act worked.”
You know the enemy’s timetable? Really?
“I don’t give history lessons to idiots. You can’t even admit that we haven’t had a major attack since 9-11, so why should I waste my time to someone who refuses to see reality.”
Why attack when they can buy? The physical attacks have been overseas. You deny Saudi involvement and call ME the idiot. LOL.
“Libertarians cannot isceuss anything truthfully because they are on the wrong side of just about everything. Your posts are devolving in crap-posts.”
Jefferson was a libertarian. So were most of the Founders. You’d make a fine Tory. You don’t even understand the concept of “liberty”.
I'm no fan of Jefferson, he rewrote the Old Testament more to his liking and constantly backbit George Washington. One of the biggest hypocrites there were.
So were most of the Founders.
Then what was that Whiskey Rebellion smackdown all about?
You’d make a fine Tory. You don’t even understand the concept of “liberty”.
I understand a Libertarian's concept of liberty. Liberty to do whatever one wants as long as it doesn't harm anyone else. No, I don't believe in that kind of liberty. I believe in conservatism...conservatism grounded in the time of the Exodus and the Judges where people are free but there is order.
Jefferson...Wasn't he that slave owner/rapist...and head of the democrat party?
“I’m no fan of Jefferson, he rewrote the Old Testament more to his liking and constantly backbit George Washington. One of the biggest hypocrites there were.”
On the subject of liberty as a theory, he was right.
“Then what was that Whiskey Rebellion smackdown all about?”
Power corrupts.
“Liberty to do whatever one wants as long as it doesn’t harm anyone else. No, I don’t believe in that kind of liberty. I believe in conservatism...conservatism grounded in the time of the Exodus and the Judges where people are free but there is order.”
Order. I see. Conservatism, in the United States, is built upon adherence to the United States Constitution. That is what it seeks to conserve. One man’s “order” is another man’s “tyranny”.
I don't dislike him THAT much. :^)
(I'm not saying you're wrong, I don't know)
So Washington was a Libertarian, he was just corrupted by the presidency? Come on now.
Order. I see. Conservatism, in the United States, is built upon adherence to the United States Constitution. That is what it seeks to conserve. One man’s “order” is another man’s “tyranny”.
Yes it is. I'm sure there are some Libertarians that want to have sex in the streets but can't because of "tyrannical" moral laws.
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