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Howard Dean: The Bet's Off on Incumbency
American Thinker ^ | April 10, 2010 | David Pietrusza

Posted on 04/10/2010 12:17:20 AM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 04/10/2010 12:17:20 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Democrat poll numbers started going down when Obama took office.

If it were just about incumbents then it would have been up and down then up and down down.

But all they got was down.

2 posted on 04/10/2010 12:32:42 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Figures.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Democrat poll numbers started going down when Obama took office.


I think buyer’s remorse for some set in almost immediately.

Democrats are in denial but deny they are in denial.

They will do absolutely anything to avoid showing their true colors.


3 posted on 04/10/2010 12:39:17 AM PDT by unkus
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To: unkus; All

It’s nice that all these voters have had second thoughts and, er, come to their senses.
However, I have to seriously question the judgment of anyone who voted for these charlatans in the first place!


4 posted on 04/10/2010 1:03:01 AM PDT by notdownwidems (Vote Republican! We're 1/10 of 1% better than the other guys!)
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To: notdownwidems

However, I have to seriously question the judgment of anyone who voted for these charlatans in the first place!


Scarier yet is the number who would vote for them again.


5 posted on 04/10/2010 1:18:34 AM PDT by unkus
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To: neverdem
"It's other people's money they're free with," said Rove.

LOL! Great comeback!

6 posted on 04/10/2010 1:18:53 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ("...a whip of political correctness strangles their voice"-Vaclav Klaus on GW skeptics)
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To: notdownwidems

The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to an electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails us. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The republic can survive a Barack Obama It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.” — Author Unknown


7 posted on 04/10/2010 1:20:06 AM PDT by unkus
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To: Fresh Wind

“It’s other people’s money they’re free with,” said Rove.
LOL! Great comeback!


A Pet Rock is brighter than Dean.


8 posted on 04/10/2010 1:22:12 AM PDT by unkus
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To: notdownwidems
"However, I have to seriously question the judgment of anyone who voted for these charlatans in the first place!"

It was the work of the MSM, with a lot of help from the government schools. The MSM can't die fast enough for me.

9 posted on 04/10/2010 1:46:13 AM PDT by Neanderthal
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To: neverdem

I’ve noticed this “incumbents” spiel from Fox’s resident liberals, Juan Williams and Shepherd Smith, as well.

How much is wishful thinking and how much is intentional propaganda is hard to tell. That Howard Dean wasn’t willing to wager at such high odds as 4 to 1 makes the latter much more likely.

Personally, I can’t understand why anybody would vote for any Dim incumbent in November. They might be talked into a different Dim, but that would have to happen in the Primary. If their incumbent wins their Primary race, I can’t see them beating the GOP or Independent in the General election.


10 posted on 04/10/2010 2:03:11 AM PDT by Kellis91789 (Democrat: Someone who supports killing children, but protests executing convicted murderers.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Democrat poll numbers started going down when Obama took office.

Obama voters seem to be like Sandra Bullock. "Oh, my gosh. Just because he's got all sorts of tattoos and cheated on his pregnant porn star wife, why would I expect him to be a jerk when I married him?"

11 posted on 04/10/2010 3:44:54 AM PDT by Bernard (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, Three if by Government)
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To: neverdem
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"Democrats are always much more careful about their money," Dean responded, merely providing Rove an opportunity to skewer him and his co-religionists.

"It's other people's money they're free with," said Rove.

OOOOOH, killshot!! Well done, Karl!

12 posted on 04/10/2010 3:53:47 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: unkus

“Scarier yet is the number who would vote for them again.”

And there are lots of them. (A boon for all those psychiatrists out there.)

IMHO


13 posted on 04/10/2010 4:11:50 AM PDT by ripley
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To: neverdem

The Dems may be the problem squared, but incumbent ‘pubbies are the problem, too. It’s not the Democratic or Republican parties, or incumbency itself that’s unpopular, it’s the big-government (and especially big-government-for-sale) philosophy that infests all three camps.

So yes, can them all.


14 posted on 04/10/2010 4:13:55 AM PDT by Grut
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To: unkus

“They will do absolutely anything to avoid showing their true colors.”

The problem is the mask is off. The myth is dead. They have shown there is nothing but radical nature when they are left to themselves and they cannot be trusted. The proof is there that the left-wingers are much more of a threat than supposed ‘right-wingers’. They are a party that is consumed by a disingenuous, sleazy politician nature. The enemy within.


15 posted on 04/10/2010 5:07:59 AM PDT by bushfamfan (United States of America: July 4, 1776-November 4, 2008)
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To: neverdem

excellent post, thanks!!!


16 posted on 04/10/2010 8:31:55 AM PDT by Tamzee (OBAMA ---- ALL SHAM, NO WOW)
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To: notdownwidems

Exactly, and we can’t trust them to switch side in 2010. If they do switch sides in 2010, they may go back to Obama in 2012.


17 posted on 04/10/2010 8:36:13 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: bushfamfan
"They have shown there is nothing but radical nature when they are left to themselves and they cannot be trusted. "

Sort of like the Eddie Haskell of politics.
18 posted on 04/10/2010 8:55:53 AM PDT by FrankR (Those of us who love AMERICA far outnumber those who love obama - your choice.)
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Democrat propagandists say its NOT about those who rammed the stimulus and health care/student loan nationalization through Congress. No. Dems will lose seats b/c the public is dissatisfied with "incumbents" which might explain Jon Corzine's loss in New Jersey.......

W-R-O-N-G. Here's how the WH Dem strategy worked last Nov in solid Democrat-union-latino New Jersey....with a wealthy incumbent Dimo Governor who spent $185 million of his own money to buy elected offices.

OBAMA WAS DESPERATE FOR NJ's INCUMBENT GOV CORZINE TO WIN. HE KEPT CALLING CORZINE HIS "PARTNER." Ohaha was heavly invested in the NJ gubernatorial race. His carefully-laid plans----for installing a permanent Dem majority went haywire. Pulling out all the stops for NJ made Ohaha a VERY good target for voters disgusted with Ohaha’s policies.

The NY Times reported:
(a) every TV ad Corzine put on the air was screened by Obama's WH team.
(b) Corzine's aides gave the WH daily briefings.
(c) Obama’s pollsters took over for Corzine’s polling team,
(d) White House operatives were on the ground for internal strategy sessions,
(e) White House operatives were orchestrating obscure pep rallies with Latinos (kept secret from voters),
(f) Ohaha campaigned in the state three times, Biden was there twice.
(g) Ohaha TV ads ran relentlessly in costly NY media markets.
(h) The crooked NJ Democrat Machine was also running at warp speed.

The New Jersey race was considered a "squeaker" that would go on till all hours. But two hours after the polls closed, the Repub was declared the winner with a comfortable 4-point margin (would have been higher were it not for Dem voter fraud).

Other pertinent facts:

>> Incumbent Dem Jon Corzine (the wealthy loser) outspent the Repub winner about 4-1.
>> New Jersey has a huge Democratic registration.
>> Corzine bragged he had 20,000 paid union helpers on the ground election day to get out the vote.
>> There was a third party candidate siphoning off Republican votes.
>> Corzine had the power of incumbency.
>> Corzine had the power of a crooked Democrat Machine cooking the vote.
>> Ohaha hid $17.5 BILLION stimlulus in New Jersey.....for Corzine's reelection campaign.

And still Corzine lost decisively.

>> White House operatives were orchestrating obscure pep rallies with Latinos (kept secret from voters).
>> Corzine had a "Peruvian Pac" endorsing him.
>> Corzine promised to give illegals driving credentials & in-state tuition.
>> Corzine sucked up bigtime and REFUSED to enforce current immigration laws.
>> Corzine formed a Blue Ribbon committee of latinos and other hypenates who were using tax dollars to mine votes for Corzine.
>> Also sucking up to illegals was Democrat US Sen Robert Menendez, a Spanish-speaking Corzine campaigner.
>> Corzine appointed latinos to the Supreme Court and other high-profile state jobs.

And still Corzine lost decisively.

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NEW JERSEY IS "IDENTITY FRAUD CENTRAL" FOR LATINO IDENTITY THEFT

Two Texans busted in bogus ID operation in NJ NORTH BERGEN, NJ -- July 21, 2006 -- Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity, authorities said. The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker.

The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses for any state in the US, passports and resident alien cards, said state police. Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot. Authorities wouldn't identify the NJ hotel by name for fear it would spark retribution. The Drug Interdiction Task Force, regularly runs checks.

The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout. Authorities approached the Texas brothers when they returned to the NJ hotel and questioned them separately. The Texas brothers consented to a search.

Police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs. All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street. Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 Social Security cards.

And still Corzine lost decisively.

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The Republican Lieutenant Governor candidate (who won), was publicly lacerated by organized latino groups. A County Sheriff, she had applied for the federal 287(g) program, to question every inmate coming to the County jail about his/her immigration status, regardless of the offense for which they are incarcerated. The Sheriff had sought to ensure that "criminals" are not unduly released for fear of further harm to the community. The 287(g) program would provide the Sheriff with personnel and tools to punish individuals being held at the County jail (this was in contrast to the criteria set forth by candidate Corzine). illegals. Illegals lacerated the Sheriff for political pandering and for scouting incidents of indictable offenses such as driving under the influence by undocumented immigrants.

And still Corzine lost decisively.....conceding 2 hours after the polls closed.

THE UPSHOT According to Ohaha's slimy Press Secretary, Robert Gibbs, Ohaha was "busy with other matters" election night and "wasn't really concerned" with election results...an indication the WH is sucking up valium and vodka in order to anesthetize themselves from the aftermath.....trying to convince themselves the election was not a referendum on Obama.

The tsunami is ahead---in 2010-12.

19 posted on 04/10/2010 9:14:07 AM PDT by Liz (If teens can procreate in a Volkswagen, why does a spotted owl need 2000 acres? JD Hayworth)
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To: bushfamfan

The problem is the mask is off. The myth is dead


I think that is a good thing.


20 posted on 04/10/2010 9:18:47 AM PDT by unkus
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