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21 dead babies found in river in China
Edmonton Sun ^ | March 30, 2010 | Chi-Chi Zhang

Posted on 03/30/2010 8:59:06 AM PDT by spyone

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To: pillut48

Thank you for your comforting words, I needed to hear them.


121 posted on 03/30/2010 8:54:01 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: keepitreal

God bless your miracles! :*) I’m so glad they found you.


122 posted on 03/30/2010 8:59:17 PM PDT by pillut48 ("Stand now. Stand together. Stand for what is right."-Gov.Sarah Palin, "Going Rogue")
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To: reaganaut

Anytime. It’s one of those things nobody likes to talk about, but apparently happens to lots of women. When I lost my first child, all of my colleagues at school where I taught would not comment on it AT ALL. I found a sympathy card signed by the staff, and a plant, but nothing verbal...which was strange to me. I found more comfort from my 4th graders who would hug me periodically and tell me they were sorry my baby died. I didn’t know what to say to the other teachers so I never spoke up...then one day while I was making copies in the teacher’s lounge an older lady came up to me tentatively, and told me she was so sorry for my loss—then burst into tears! We hugged, and I found myself comforting *her* as she told me about her miscarriage in the 50s—which still grieved her to that day because it was something ‘you didn’t talk about’.

Helped us both a lot that day just talking, you know? :*)


123 posted on 03/30/2010 9:03:06 PM PDT by pillut48 ("Stand now. Stand together. Stand for what is right."-Gov.Sarah Palin, "Going Rogue")
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To: pillut48

yeah, I know. When I lost my baby, I just wanted my mommy. My husband tried but it was just so hard, none of my friends had gone through it and there wasn’t anyone to talk to.


124 posted on 03/30/2010 9:16:35 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: exit82
Yet, we Americans do the same thing 4,000 times a day.

Only, they don't usually throw the remains away in the garbage. Industrial strength garbage disposals or incinerators are used. Although some may package up the bodies in "medical waste" marked bags that are then picked up by companies that get rid of the babies for them. This may be what happened in China and the waste disposal company thought they could just chuck it into the river and not bother.

How hideous this total disregard for the value of human life! Maybe this find will be what is needed to shock people who still have some of their humanity left in them to come to their senses and make abortion a thing of the past. A horrible, evil, despicable and shameful past that will not be repeated. We can only pray that the Lord opens their eyes - and ours as well.

125 posted on 03/30/2010 10:09:50 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: reaganaut
I am so sorry to hear of your loss.

Strange that when parents are happy about the pregnancy and the baby dies, they are allowed to grieve. That you were allowed to have your daughter's body to name and bury yourself, certainly helped you in the grieving process. Yet when mothers and fathers of aborted children break through their denial and allow themselves to grieve for the child, they are thought strange. The only difference was the attitude at the time of the parents - the child was the same in both cases. Wanted or not wanted. How sad!

I pray one day soon, we will not have to make abortion illegal because it will be unthinkable!!!

126 posted on 03/30/2010 10:21:23 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums

I pray you are right.


127 posted on 03/30/2010 10:34:40 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Bluebird Singing
Why is the “official News Agency” reporting this? Isn’t is odd?

Because the "crime" will be that the medical waste company responsible for the disposal of the bodies probably got paid and then tossed the bags into the river rather than into the incinerators like they were supposed to.

"Medical waste" washes up on shore right here in America from time to time, but it's usually syringes and such. I did hear not that long ago about a vacant lot owned by an abortionist was discovered to have piles of bags of baby body parts that the guy used rather than pay for a company to "take care of it" for him. Desperately wicked indeed!

128 posted on 03/30/2010 10:41:07 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: antivenom; Colvin
It is becoming almost IMPOSSIBLE to even know from where a product originates. Supposedly the UPC (universal product code) should show country of origin but the following linked article says that that is not nessesarily true. See below from WikiHow:

UPC Barcodes are typically registered and used in the United States and Canada and, therefore, do not indicate a country identifier.

A similar bar code system is EAN (European Article Number). It contains 13 digits and also indicates the country in which the bar code was registered. Read the first "3" digits of the code to determine this.

Example: If the first 3 digits of the barcode are 690, 691 or 692, the country in which the code was registered was China.
It is important to note that the country code in EAN bar codes DOES NOT indicate where the product was manufactured.

See: http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/fooddrink/a/barcodes.htm

According to this link:

1.There's more than one kind of bar code in use around the world. UPC bar codes, the type most commonly used in the United States, do not typically contain a country identifier. A different type of bar code known as EAN-13 does contain a country identifier, but it's more commonly used in Europe and other countries outside the U.S.

2.Even in the case of EAN-13 bar codes, the digits associated with country of origin don't necessarily specify where the product was manufactured, but rather where the bar code itself was registered. So, for example, a product manufactured in China and sold in France could have an EAN-13 bar code identifying it as a French product. Looking for a "Made in XYZ" label is generally more helpful, but, particularly with regard to foods and beverages, there's no sure-fire way to determine in every case where a product or its components originated. The U.S. Food & Drug Administration mandates country-of-origin labeling on many food products, but there are exceptions, most notably the entire category of "processed foods." Consumer groups are currently advocating the closure of these loopholes

129 posted on 03/30/2010 11:06:01 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: pillut48

I’m the luckiest of ones!


130 posted on 03/30/2010 11:18:58 PM PDT by keepitreal ( Don't tread on me.)
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To: boatbums

I did hear not that long ago about a vacant lot owned by an abortionist was discovered to have piles of bags of baby body parts that the guy used rather than pay for a company to “take care of it” for him.

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I cannot respond to this without violating forum rules.


131 posted on 03/30/2010 11:27:30 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: spyone

Choice.


132 posted on 03/30/2010 11:32:31 PM PDT by Cymbaline (Bipartisan consensus - that's like when my doctor and my lawyer agree with my wife that I need help.)
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To: Colvin

I make every effort I can put out there to avoid spending anything on something that says made in china.
It is well worth the time and extra cost. Often a store manager or employee comes over to ask me if I need help and I tell them I am checking labels for the item that does not come from China.


133 posted on 03/30/2010 11:36:48 PM PDT by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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To: reaganaut

Please freepmail me any tips you feel ok with sharing, as a family member was just diagnosed with the fast moving version, and thanks in advance.


134 posted on 03/30/2010 11:38:19 PM PDT by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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To: MarMema

you have freepmail!


135 posted on 03/31/2010 12:06:17 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Dayman

This is BS - like the blood libel against the jews.

Good lord almighty, just because it’s on the internet doesn’t make it true.

Here’s a real fact for you - the fastest growing number of Christian believers is in China and muslim countries. While we moan and groan and don’t want the world to judge us based on Obama, don’t be so quick to judge these other people, who suffer a yoke worst then ours.


136 posted on 03/31/2010 3:25:18 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: Dayman

This is BS - like the blood libel against the jews.

Good lord almighty, just because it’s on the internet doesn’t make it true.

Here’s a real fact for you - the fastest growing number of Christian believers is in China and muslim countries. While we moan and groan and don’t want the world to judge us based on Obama, don’t be so quick to judge these other people, who suffer a yoke worst then ours.


137 posted on 03/31/2010 3:25:18 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: mom4melody

“worse”not “worst”...good grief, no coffee yet.


138 posted on 03/31/2010 3:27:08 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: pillut48
gotta put 'em somewhere

this was cold sarcasm

If a society can accept the slaughter of pre-born and newborn babies, then whether the remains are carefully burned in a crematorium, ceremonially buried in a landfill, or casually tossed in the river is a side issue.

What do American hospitals and abortion clinics do with the chopped up arms and legs and noses and ears? So what if they wrap them up nicely for disposal in a special container? It might, in a way, actually be BETTER if they simply tossed them the debris out in the street.

Sorry for the mis-impression.

139 posted on 03/31/2010 8:37:36 AM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: antivenom
Will NOT buy even dog toys made in China.

You made me laugh. I do the same thing....

140 posted on 03/31/2010 11:58:37 AM PDT by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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