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New Paycheck Deduction [Voluntary Deduction Which You Can Opt Out of]
Fox News posted on Youtube ^ | March 26,2010 | William La Jeunesse, FOX News Channel

Posted on 03/27/2010 6:13:35 PM PDT by chatter4

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To: southernsunshine

“When you think about the fact that there are now more workers on the government payroll, State and Federal combined, than there are on private sector payrolls there are a limited number of reasonable conclusions to reach.”

Are you sure about that? I know that fed workers and some state workers actually make more by about 70% than private sector workers, but I’ve never heard there were more of them. I think there are about 80,000,000 employed people in the country. You’re saying more than 40,000,000 of those work for fed, state or municipal governments? I find that hard to believe.


121 posted on 03/28/2010 1:45:50 AM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: hattend

Wow, that’s the best one-liner funny (in a grim way) summary of this thing I have seen.

I’m going to use that elsewhere, updated to past tense.


122 posted on 03/28/2010 2:14:01 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: Earthdweller
Make no mistake...there are big government sellouts on both sides of the isle.

NOT WITH THIS BILL. NO REPUBLICAN VOTED FOR IT.

This 'The parties are all the same' bullcrap needs to end. Even those you consider 'RINOS' voted against these shackles. We need to do everything in our power to GET RID OF DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS. We can only find allies right now with any Republican in our fight against Obama and his Usurpation of our nation!
123 posted on 03/28/2010 2:19:02 AM PDT by lmr (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: mojitojoe; Jean S

On top of your cash stories, a friend in a much smaller city tells me he’s seen a big uptick in the amount of barter going on. Both of which tend to starve the FedGov.


124 posted on 03/28/2010 2:19:07 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: chatter4
This legislation is not REALLY about Long Term Care. It's about providing a source of immediate funds, with no outlay for 5 years, to enable the Health Care Bill to get a better score from the CBO.

The MSM, in an unbiased world, would be all over this (and the inflection in the reporters voice or written words would be negative, not positive) and people would be yelling in the streets, "Throw the Bums Out"! This is why the MSM is the greatest threat to democracy.

125 posted on 03/28/2010 5:04:50 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet ( I AM THE TEA PARTY LEADER !)
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To: OldPossum

My brother and I have been discussing this a lot lately. Trying to get others aware of what’s going on and they’re simply not interested. Until it hits them directly in their wallets, it’s “wait and see what happens...”


126 posted on 03/28/2010 5:17:52 AM PDT by Ladysmith ("A community organizer can't bitch when communities organize." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: freespirited
Guess which union represents a lot of the home health care workers who would benefit from this provision.


127 posted on 03/28/2010 5:22:17 AM PDT by petercooper (Ignorant Obama Voters: Happy Now?)
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To: chilltherats

This nugget came out before the info in the disparity of government vs private sector wages. My husband and I have discussed this several times wondering if this is what actually keeps Dems in the drivers seat. Am thinking it was on Fox News but not certain. Will dig around for the source.

I’m thinking the wage disparity is approx. 70 thousand government vs approx. 40 tousand private sector but I could be wrong. I’m wrong alot!


128 posted on 03/28/2010 5:24:20 AM PDT by southernsunshine
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To: Enterprise

“Wait wait. Let me guess. They’ll put it in a lock box, and no one can touch it. “

With these whores in D. C. a chastity belt would be more appropriate.


129 posted on 03/28/2010 5:40:21 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: genetic homophobe

“This will go over like a conservative stumping for McCain...”

Or a 65 year old hooker.


130 posted on 03/28/2010 5:48:18 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: LZ_Bayonet
This is why the MSM is the greatest threat to democracy.

Absolutely!

This is real truth, folks! I've been saying it for years. The drivebys give a 15% advantage to the Left. Fight them with all your power! TEA Parties should focus on the mainstream media with chants of "Tell the Truth" and "No More Lies" !!!!

131 posted on 03/28/2010 5:57:24 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: listenhillary
It can not continue with more people in the wagon than there are people pulling the wagon.

Hence, the END OF LIFE counseling panels. A way to lighten the load.

132 posted on 03/28/2010 7:01:08 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: Enterprise; SierraWasp; tubebender; Liz; stephenjohnbanker; Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Wait wait. Let me guess. They’ll put it in a lock box, and no one can touch it. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!”

You nailed it. The care givers will be SEIU thugs. Get any nursing home supervisor away from the nursing home, give them a glass or two of wine, and ask them about SEIU.


133 posted on 03/28/2010 7:28:44 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Use your $'s as weapons! Boycott Gay Frisco, since they keep Pelosi in congress.)
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To: nutmeg

Over my dead body.


134 posted on 03/28/2010 7:53:30 AM PDT by stanz
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To: Grampa Dave

How many years does one have to pay the premium before they qualify for the program? Is there a minimum participation time?

Maybe it’s like their illogical thinking elsewhere in the bill:
You wait to enroll until two months before you retire. Two deductions and -— Bingo! You get the benefit!


135 posted on 03/28/2010 8:07:06 AM PDT by Timeout (Brits have the royals. Russia, the Nomenklatura. WE have our Privileged "Public Servant" class.)
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To: Timeout

I think I read 5 years to be vested. Much of this doesn’t make sense.


136 posted on 03/28/2010 8:18:57 AM PDT by listenhillary (Capitalism = billions raised from poverty, Socialism = billions reduced to starvation)
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To: chatter4; Liz; stephenjohnbanker; SierraWasp; tubebender; BOBTHENAILER; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Below is one reason the Obozo/Seiu thugs need more money:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2480118/posts

Social Security to See Payout Exceed Pay-In This Year
NYTimes ^

Posted on Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:19:24 PM by quesney

The bursting of the real estate bubble and the ensuing recession have hurt jobs, home prices and now Social Security.

This year, the system will pay out more in benefits than it receives in payroll taxes, an important threshold it was not expected to cross until at least 2016, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

Stephen C. Goss, chief actuary of the Social Security Administration, said that while the Congressional projection would probably be borne out, the change would have no effect on benefits in 2010 and retirees would keep receiving their checks as usual.


I have been posting for over a year about how many newly unemployed people over the age of 62 have gone for the early social security payment because they can’t find a job.

So they aren’t paying in and are now drawing SS payments.
The problem, he said, is that payments have risen more than expected during the downturn, because jobs disappeared and people applied for benefits sooner than they had planned. At the same time, the program’s revenue has fallen sharply, because there are fewer paychecks to tax.

Also, there is a cap on what early withdrawers can make if they take social security early: Workers under full retirement age who are receiving benefits can earn up to $14,160 in 2009, or $1,180 per month, without having their benefits reduced.

This cap actually reduces the yearly SS intake pool.


137 posted on 03/28/2010 8:29:32 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Use your $'s as weapons! Boycott Gay Frisco, since they keep Pelosi in congress.)
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To: 70times7

Ping for later viewing


138 posted on 03/28/2010 8:32:49 AM PDT by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: TheGrimReaper

Please tell me we can opt out...


139 posted on 03/28/2010 8:40:28 AM PDT by RikaStrom (Pray for Obama - Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his place of leadership.")
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To: Timeout

The answer to your question and more bad news is in this link:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/26/little-known-long-termhealth-care-provision-budget-buster-say-critics/


140 posted on 03/28/2010 8:43:47 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Use your $'s as weapons! Boycott Gay Frisco, since they keep Pelosi in congress.)
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