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Why I Wrote The 'Stupak Amendment' And Voted For Health-Care Reform
Washington Post ^ | March 26, 2010 | Bart Stupak

Posted on 03/26/2010 8:09:16 PM PDT by Steelfish

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To: Steelfish
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101 posted on 03/26/2010 10:06:17 PM PDT by fso301
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To: HerrBlucher

I would accept, but the TBWs may be a different story.


102 posted on 03/26/2010 10:18:01 PM PDT by o-n-money
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To: Steelfish
Throughout history, executive orders have carried the full force and effect of law and have served as an important means of implementing public policy. Perhaps the most famous executive order was the Emancipation Proclamation signed by President Abraham Lincoln in 1863. More recently, in 2007, President George W. Bush signed Executive Order 13435, restricting embryonic stem-cell research.

NO, executive orders do NOT as a matter of principle carry the full force and effect of law.

The president is ONLY empowered to regulate in areas where the Constitution or Congress has DELEGATED to him the power to do so.

It is astonishing that a United States Congressman does not know this! Does he think our presidents have the same power as Napoleon, Hitler, or Stalin? They can by diktat rule over the people?

There is a reason the Emancipation Proclamation did NOT purport to free slaves in the area comprising the Union. It was because Lincoln did not have the legal AUTHORITY to do so. As commander-in-chief of the armed forces, he freed the slaves only in the area that had taken up arms against the Union and did so only pursuant his military authority to declare contraband.

As to Stupak's argument that Obama's executive order is similar to Bush's on stem cell research, here is the response of Yuval Levin, who worked on that order for Bush:

This argument makes no sense whatsoever. I was part of the team that produced Bush’s executive order, the text of which you can read here. The order was in no way designed to “prevent stem-cell research,” or to change an existing law, modify the treatment of the life question in federal law, or anything else that Stupak is suggesting President Obama's order will do.

The rest of Yuval's discussion is at: http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NTZhYjBhMjFhMjBmOGJmM2Q3N2ZjMTAwYjVkNjcwN2E=

In contrast, Obama did NOT have discretionary authority to make new law by executive authority on the topic of abortion funding, as that area has already been covered in statutes and legal precedents, which have not granted to the president discretionary authority to make law in this area.

Stupak is either appallingly ignorant of the separation of powers in our government, or is being intentionally deceitful.

103 posted on 03/26/2010 10:43:47 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Steelfish
Regarding the the Emancipation Proclamation....

Stupak needs to bone up on his history. As most democrats, he gets everything ass backwards.

If the Emancipation Proclamation was “as good as law”. then why oh why was the Fourteenth Amendment necessary? Because the Emancipation Proclamation was a political tool, not a lawful instrument. The dictator Lincoln couldn't lawfully deprive his fellow countrymen of their property as the laws that made slavery legal were still in force and recognized by the Supreme Court.

Stupak is an idiot of historic proportions as as well as a traitor to the pro life cause.

104 posted on 03/26/2010 10:48:51 PM PDT by RedMonqey (You only think you are free.....)
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To: Steelfish

The fact that he feels constrained to excuse his betrayal is proof of it. Why would anyone believe something from a Democrat? Their lies are a tangled knot of twists and turns


105 posted on 03/26/2010 11:25:11 PM PDT by rockhardo (Socialism creates its own hell.)
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To: sickoflibs
“Thought he could play with the big guys and got crushed and caved to Obama”.

Matches my impression of him.

106 posted on 03/26/2010 11:26:22 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: Steelfish

Give it up Bart. You are a phony hypocrite and will go down in history as such.


107 posted on 03/27/2010 4:42:05 AM PDT by AdaGray
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To: Steelfish
Bart Stupak wanted honest, genuine health care reform and the effective protection of American babies from murder-as-a-public-service.

He ended up with neither.

Now his enemies (who are also our enemies) have his head on a pike, his soul in a matchbox, and his guts in a Hefty bag.

But they've also convinced him that his "enemies" are the thousands of pro-life people who loved him and voted for him for all these years; and that they, the Pelosi pack who captured and morally decapitated him, are his friends.

I think it's heart-crushing and abysmally pathetic. It motivated me to look up "Stockholm Syndrome".

108 posted on 03/27/2010 6:26:17 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Dies irae! dies illa / Solvet saeclum in favilla / Teste David cum Sibylla!)
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"The fact that he feels constrained to excuse his betrayal is proof of it.'

I could not have said it any better than you did.

109 posted on 03/27/2010 10:31:56 AM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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