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Stupak Abortion Language to Be Substituted for Senate Language in Deal to Secure Health Care Votes
FiredogLake ^ | 3/19/10 | Jane Hamsher

Posted on 03/19/2010 7:45:03 PM PDT by LdSentinal

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To: LdSentinal

What a big fat goat cluster copulation this has become.
Pray the Lord send a mighty whirlwind of dissension and confusion into the enemies camp.


42 posted on 03/19/2010 7:57:41 PM PDT by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: LdSentinal

I need to read up on this. However, I believe that this actually modifies the Senate Bill, which means that at least 51 Senators would have to agree and if they did not that the House would have to repass the Senate bill. Not sure though.


43 posted on 03/19/2010 7:58:02 PM PDT by dschapin
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To: LdSentinal

Don’t be fooled by this. The plan as outlined is flatly impossible. And even if it were possible, they’d lose more votes than they’d gain by prohibiting abortion funding.


44 posted on 03/19/2010 7:58:09 PM PDT by sourcery (The layoffs, tax increases and wealth redistribution will continue until morale improves!)
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To: Diogenesis

Are you sure that hijacking the threat with a very long, unrelated, spam style rant is the right thing to do?


45 posted on 03/19/2010 7:58:45 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: UAConservative
The writer of that opinion? John Paul Stevens

Whom I trust about as far as I can throw a Boesendorfer grand piano. He would find some way to distinguish something or other.

Cordially,

46 posted on 03/19/2010 7:59:10 PM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: xkaydet65

If the vote on Stupak’s Amendment comes first we might be smarter to vote for it and force the pro-choice block to defect. Not sure on that though.


47 posted on 03/19/2010 7:59:28 PM PDT by dschapin
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To: LdSentinal
gee, I'm so surprised.

After all everybody here or most of the FReepers were "praying" for this a##hole. I was calling him the f'ing parasite hypocrite that he is.

Pro-life democrat is like a Nazi rabbi.

Well there we are. The dems have stolen our republic. Now what?

What are the legal and protests that we as peace loving patriots can do? How are our governors going to protest and structure the fact that we are now at a point were income will be given to parasites and the productive members of this country are screwed.

We are all DETROIT. Doncha just love the hope and f'ing change???? brothas....

48 posted on 03/19/2010 8:00:07 PM PDT by erman (TOFUS- representing all 58 states of these United States of America......As)
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To: mrs9x; Perdogg
I was just posting a story from FireDogLake and saw this FR thread. When you go to FireDogLake.com, this story does not appear.

One must go to the link url provided with thread to see the article: http://firedoglake.com/2010/03/19/stupak-abortion-language-to-be-substituted-for-senate-language-in-deal-to-secure-health-care-votes/

I thought it was just a glitch, but....is something amiss?

49 posted on 03/19/2010 8:00:57 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: Man50D

I think Stupak had already lost 2 or 3 of his twelve earlier.


50 posted on 03/19/2010 8:01:28 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: LdSentinal

Oh c*rp and I just emailed him thanking him for standing up us against this health care plan and for life. I had a gut feeling but, was hopeful this wouldn’t happen :(


51 posted on 03/19/2010 8:02:19 PM PDT by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: nina0113

Not sure how this works. However, since this amendment purports to actually change the Senate Bill. I believe that if it passes then the Senate Bill has to go back to the Senate before it can go to the president. That would mean that Nancy Pelosi would be giving up on getting the president something to sign on Sunday.


52 posted on 03/19/2010 8:02:59 PM PDT by dschapin
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To: Minn

Do you really think RomneyCARE’s failure is not
related to ObamaCARE?

Really? Really?


53 posted on 03/19/2010 8:03:06 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: dschapin

“And while he was sitting on the judgement seat, his (Pilate) wife sent to him, saying, “have nothing to do with that righteous Man; for last night I suffered greatl in a dream because of Him.”Matthew 27:19

Pilate caved in due to pressure that the HIGH Priests put on and he made the WRONG CHOICE!

Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama are putting ILLEGAL PRESSURE upon REPs! They ALL need to be called PILATE!


54 posted on 03/19/2010 8:03:59 PM PDT by princess leah (1)
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To: LdSentinal

Doesn’t the Senate bill have a provision in it that a supermajority is needed to amend it? I would think this would certainly apply after a successful effort to pass it into law, but wouldn’t that also apply to attempts to amend it by means of bundling it with another bill that purports to edit its language?


55 posted on 03/19/2010 8:04:08 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: MsLady

One should be careful what one asks for; one may get it.


56 posted on 03/19/2010 8:05:22 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: mrs9x; Perdogg

Odd, it is there now... (post time 7:30pm)


57 posted on 03/19/2010 8:05:45 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That Language only applies to one small section of the Senate Bill and probably doesn’t really have any authority. It certainly has no authority untill signed into law.


58 posted on 03/19/2010 8:05:56 PM PDT by dschapin
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To: Man50D
Real simple, we just tell Stupak that not one single Republican will vote for this.

And don't bluff, tell him we're not going to improve the bill. Even if it means passing it with the Senate language.

Let Stupak and Pelosi try to convince their coalition to hold together.

59 posted on 03/19/2010 8:06:07 PM PDT by delapaz
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To: dschapin

Yeah, this could be ok if Stupak isn’t stupid and he attaches this thing directly to the Senate Bill. Doing so would prevent Obama from signing it into law Sunday night.

And this could tick off the pro abortion Dems so badly they don’t have a vote.

Frankly, at this hour, I would take a 217-214 Dem win Sunday IF Stupak’s abortion language was tied into the Bill. Wouldn’t that then require a 60 vote majority in the Senate? So now we’re back at gridlock and this thing will be defeated ultimately. Do I have this right?


60 posted on 03/19/2010 8:06:45 PM PDT by SteveAustin
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