Posted on 03/18/2010 5:41:55 PM PDT by kristinn
“He is a reckless ideologue who is willing to sacrifice the country’s stability in pursuit of a socialist utopia.”
Like Julius Caesar was.
If what Obama and the democrats have been doing cannot be considered high crimes and misdemeanors and extreme abuse of power...then nothing can be considered impeachable anymore.
A link from my ‘Obama impeachment file’ that some might want to read:
“The Congress decides the definition: by majority vote in the House for impeachment, and by 2/3 vote in the Senate for conviction. The Framers of the Constitution deliberately put impeachment into the hands of the legislative branch rather than the judicial branch, thus transforming it from strictly a matter of legal definition to a matter of political judgment. Then Representative Gerald Ford put it into practical perspective in 1970, when he said an impeachable offense is “whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be at a given moment in history.”
“High crimes and misdemeanors” entered the text of the Constitution due to George Mason and James Madison. Mason had argued that the reasons given for impeachment — treason and bribery — were not enough. He worried that other “great and dangerous offenses” might not be covered, and suggested adding the word “maladministration.” Madison argued that term was too vague, so Mason then proposed “high crimes and misdemeanors,” a phrase well-known in English common law. In 18th century language, a “misdemeanor” meant “mis-demeanor,”or bad behavior (neglect of duty and corruption were given as examples), while “high crimes” was roughly equivalent to “great offenses.”
Lawyers and historians are still arguing about the exact meaning of “high crimes and misdemeanors,” dividing into three schools of thought about the appropriate definition: (1) serious criminality evidenced by breaking existing law; (2) an abuse of office, and (3) the Alexander Hamilton standard (Federalist 65) of “violation of public trust.”
In our most recent experience with presidential impeachment — Watergate in 1974 — the House Judiciary Committee strongly argued that the case for impeachment need not be limited to actual violations of criminal law. In its report, Constitutional Grounds for Presidential Impeachment, the Committee argued the definition should go beyond actual breach of law, citing Blackstone’s phrase, “an injury to the state or system of government,” Justice Joseph Story’s phrase, “offenses of a political character,” and Edmund Burke’s statement at an impeachment trial that the official on trial should be judged “not upon the niceties of a narrow jurisprudence, but upon the enlarged and solid principles of morality.” The Committee further stated that historically, Congress had issued Articles of Impeachment in three broad categories: (1) exceeding the constitutional bounds of the powers of the office; (2) behaving in a manner grossly incompatible with the proper function and purpose of the office; and (3) employing the power of the office for an improper purpose or for personal gain.”
WE NEED TO TAKE BACK THE CONGRESS IN NOVEMBER, SO WE CAN STOP THIS COMMIE OVERTHROW OF OUR COUNTRY!!
IMPEACH!!
Who said military?
You thinking about “mooselimbs” living in the population here in the US. The general populace has over 200 million guns and 12 billion rounds of ammo. They will get annihilated. Go drink more Olde English 800.
If anyone out there has figured out a way to do it, please share with the rest of us.
I am increasingly of the opinion that the only recourse left for employed tax-paying Americans is to lock out the DC criminals from the capitol.
Surround the place and don't allow anyone in or out.
I suppose they could convene in Cuba... but I don't think so.
What's the DC police going to do?
Fire on us?
I hope not. I have a suspicion it will. I know where I stand.
GREAT CATBALLS! those kitties are floating!
“If anyone out there has figured out a way to do it, please share with the rest of us.”
WE WIN IN NOVEMBER...BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS. Then we hold hearings and draw up the articles of impeachment. What Obama and the democrats have been doing qualifies as high crimes and misdemeanors and severe abuses of power. It is going to be easy once we throw his democrat minions out of power. I would not be surprised if some people go to jail.
I don’t know about that. I think you are a bit optimistic.
Just wanted to ping you all to this excellent article and my post 102. This part in particular from the info on 102:
“Lawyers and historians are still arguing about the exact meaning of “high crimes and misdemeanors,” dividing into three schools of thought about the appropriate definition: (1) serious criminality evidenced by breaking existing law; (2) an abuse of office, and (3) the Alexander Hamilton standard (Federalist 65) of “violation of public trust.”
If this is true and there are 3 ‘schools of thought’ on what constitutes HCAM..then I would say we have Obama checkmated, because his actions fall under ALL THREE!!
Yes. They will fire.
This is my favorite. I've stood in awe reading and seeing this inscription that circles above his tall statue inside the Collonade. I have done this more than once at his Memorial on the Tidal Basin. It is a very spiritual place and experience.
If you ever get the chance, it's an easy on off exit on your way southbound to National airport.
Great thoughts...although a bit optimistic. I would settle for a win by both houses and repeal of all of the Socialist agenda that may be passed by this group. Thankfully, most resides on the back burner - or in progress. This seems to be a deciding moment in politics - elect those that actually believe in the Constitution or we go the way of Europe.
Blount had already been expelled by the Senate, but those in the House thought that that wasn't enough for the treasonous jerk. They wanted him barred from ever holding public office, a result only available via the impeachment process. The high and mighty Senators agreed that he was guilty as h*ll, but weren't willing to let anyone, not even the House, have authority over THEM They ruled that Senators were not subject to impeachment and the precedent has stood ever since. It probably applies to members of the House as well. The House has never tried to impeach its own although it has expelled a few. BTW, things turned out as the House feared. Blount went on to become Governor of Tennessee.
Or pass laws to supercede laws they wrote a year before. Has anyone ever bothered to read the Federal Register??? It would take a year.
You can’t post that enough IMO. People will eventually understand what the CPC is, and what they are up to.
They must be targeted one and all.
"If" Obamacare passes by any means other than an up or down clean vote, legal challenges will be filed in VA while the ink from Obama's signature is drying, in the so-called 'rocket-docket' federal court, and also in DC's federal court by Landmark Legal (Mark Levin).
I agree with you, penelopesire,that Obama's actions seems to fall under all three. :)
Impeach Congress, too!
What are “his forces”? The US military?
I don’t think so.
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