Posted on 03/09/2010 1:37:16 PM PST by pissant
Senator Graham Gets the Law Wrong ... Again [Andy McCarthy]
You can tell that the lawyers who’ve come to the aid of DOJ’s al Qaeda lawyers don’t have a coherent case. Every time they open their mouths, they embarrass themselves.
First there was the comparison of lawyers who took up the enemy’s cause to John Adams. As Cesar Conda aptly put it earlier today, that comparison is ludicrous. The United States was not at war at the time of the Boston massacre, the British soldiers Adams agreed to represent were not uniniformed terrorists, and those soldiers were defendants in a criminal trial. No one is claiming that defendants in a criminal trial are not entitled to counsel or that those who defend them are not performing a constitutionally valuable function.
But the al Qaeda terrorists are at war with the United States, and they do not have a right to counsel to challenge their status as detainees. On that score, here comes Sen. Lindsey Graham again (italics mine):
I’ve been a military lawyer for almost 30 years, I represented people as a defense attorney in the military that were charged with some pretty horrific acts, and I gave them my all[.]... This system of justice that we’re so proud of in America requires the unpopular to have an advocate and every time a defense lawyer fights to make the government do their job, that defense lawyer has made us all safer.
This is specious. “The unpopular” are not “required” to have “an advocate” if (a) “the unpopular” include war prisoners seeking to challenge their status as enemy combatants (or unprivileged belligerents) and (b) by “advocate,” Graham means a lawyer. In fact, Sen. Graham was a sponsor of the Military Commissions Act which not only endorsed a system that did not provide counsel for detainees but further (and quite properly) sought to deny those detainees access to the federal district courts.
Is Graham now saying he favors a Sixth Amendment right to counsel for all detainees seeking to challenge our military’s designation of them as enemy combatants? That would be radical and unprecedented extension of constitutional rights for our alien enemies, but that sure seems to be what he’s saying.
And every time a defense lawyer fights to make the government do their job, that defense lawyer has made us all safer? It did not used to be part of the government’s job to explain to a court why it was holding an enemy prisoner during wartime. As Justice Jackson wrote for the Supreme Court in the Eisentrager case, giving our enemies access to our courts in order to make such a demand
would diminish the prestige of our commanders, not only with enemies but with wavering neutrals. It would be difficult to devise more effective fettering of a field commander than to allow the very enemies he is ordered to reduce to submission to call him to account in his own civil courts and divert his efforts and attention from the military offensive abroad to the legal defensive at home.
Does Sen. Graham now think the Supreme Court was wrong about that? Justice Jackson’s point was precisely the opposite of what Graham argues. Allowing these claims makes us less safe. On the theory that a lawyer can be expected to argue the claim more compellingly than would a terrorist untrained in the law, the lawyer making the claim makes us less safe still.
We are not talking about criminal defendants. Of course lawyers who take the cases of criminal defendants “give their all” — that’s their obligation and they are performing a constitutionally required function. But the lawyers who represented the detainees seeking to challenge their status were not representing people who were entitled to counsel and were pushing for the creation of a legal claim that the Eisentrager Court correctly reasoned would endanger the war effort and the country. If I am remembering correctly, that was Sen. Graham’s position, too ... until about five minutes ago.
Speaking of which, it seems like only yesterday that Sen. Graham was railing against the al Qaeda lawyers in a Senate debate. He didn’t seem to think they were making us safer by making the government do its job. Here he was in the debate over the Military Commissions Act, complaining about the Supreme Court’s Rasul case which, against the wisdom of Eisentrager, gave the detainees the right to file habeas corpus suits in federal court. Graham was complaining that this resulted in lawyers intruding into the collection of intelligence:
If I could add one thing on this point: perhaps the best evidence that the current Rasul system undermines effective interrogation is that even the detainees’ lawyers are bragging about their lawsuits’ having that effect. Michael Ratner, a lawyer who has filed lawsuits on behalf of numerous enemy combatants held at Guantanamo Bay, boasted in a recent magazine interview about how he has made it harder for the military to do its job. He particularly emphasized that the litigation interferes with interrogation of enemy combatants:
The litigation is brutal [for the United States]. We have over one hundred lawyers now from big and small firms working to represent these detainees. Every time an attorney goes down there, it makes it that much harder [for the U.S. military] to do what they’re doing. You can’t run an interrogation … with attorneys. What are they going to do now that we’re getting court orders to get more lawyers down there?
When not filing suits for the detainees — oh, I’m sorry, I mean, when not being a good defense lawyer who fights to make the government do their job — Michael Ratner of the neocommunist Center for Constitutional Rights runs around Europe trying to find some court willing to indict Bush administration officials for war crimes. Now, he’s John Adams. Who knew?
03/09 04:41 PM Share
Believe me, later today wouldn't be fast enough for me.
Unfortunately, we don't get to throw Limpy out on the sidewalk until 2014. Also unfortunately, South Carolina doesn't have a recall law. So he's got until 2014 to continue to act like a frigging left-wing Democrat and embarrass our state.
Sometime around late 2013 or early 2014, he'll start acting like a conservative again. But I doubt that will work. To many people here in SC are waking up to what a real asshole he is. And I'm keeping a list.
BUMP
When Lawyers Attack [Cesar Conda]
We all know lawyers are a fraternity, but in this case the lawyers denouncing Liz Cheney and Bill Kristol seem to think being a member of the bar in good standing puts you above criticism or even inquiry. Don’t they believe the American people have the right to know whether lawyers who represented terrorists are now working on detainee issues inside the Department of Justice? Or why these lawyers voluntarily flocked to Guantanamo Bay to take up the cause of the detained terror suspects when they did not and do not have a right to legal representation?
The Supreme Court found that they have a right to bring habeas challenges to their detention. That does not confer a right to representation, and in fact, the vast majority of criminals who bring habeas challenges do so without counsel. The John Adams analogy that Ken Starr and the other lawyers cite in their statement is ludicrous: At the time of the Boston Massacre we were not at war and the British soldiers he defended were in court facing a criminal charge of murder. Adams was not representing prisoners of war, enemies of the nation, trying to get them released in the middle of a war. And Adams wasn’t embarrassed about what he did — if what the terrorists’ lawyers did was so noble, why is the DOJ refusing to tell us what they work on now?
Finally, the lawyers’ statement denounces Keep America Safe’s efforts to find out more about lawyers who defended terrorists as “shameful,” yet most of the letter’s signatories stayed silent when the Left was conducting a witch hunt of Bush administration lawyers and CIA interrogators who helped defend America. Keep America Safe is not calling for a witch hunt. They are calling for oversight.
03/09 10:59 AM Share
Actually, "Lindsay" is a boyfriend stealing, milk-aholic baby.
Actually, "Lindsay" is a boyfriend stealing, milk-aholic baby.
What is the world coming to when a lesbian has more balls to take on the RINOs of the world than “mean-spirited” conservatives.
BTW, the “Al-Queda 7” has a nice ring to it.
fyi
This is why we need at least the threat of a third party. Get these damn RINOs out before they destroy this whole nation.
2014. It’s a long ride with this clown.
Liz isn’t a lez. It’s the other one.
I’m from SC — and I’ll take Liz over Lindsey EVERY TIME.
SC is an embarrassment to conservative states.
Yeahm and Lohan is suing them for 100 million. What a joke.
Gomer Pyle was a patriot. Don’t belittle him by comparing him to grahamnesty.
Sorry. I didn’t see that until after I pinged you. LOL
You’re right.
Sorry.
ooops my bad...sorry Liz
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