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McCain and the POW Cover-up (How McCain left U.S. POWs and MIAs to rot in hell)
The Nation ^ | 2008-10-06 | Sydney H. Schanberg

Posted on 03/05/2010 1:05:46 PM PST by rabscuttle385

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To: rabscuttle385

GEEZE rabs...you’re being attacked for your source! Frankly, I’m not familiar with the source, so I could care less who wrote it.... Is there anything in the content that isn’t true or have the McShamnesties just come calling?


41 posted on 03/05/2010 2:16:53 PM PST by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: rabscuttle385

The story is 100% true. Had friends in military intell who specifically told me that COng held 1200 POW and the deal was to turn over half now, and half after Congress paid reparations. The Dem Congress welched on its end of the deal.

Obviously, Nixon had no leverage by 1974, but he did not have to go along with it in 1973. The 1992 group that said we had no POWs in 1992 ignored the rescue signals that were visible in 1992 from multiple POWs in Laos who heard that the US was again looking for them.

There were four people on the group to find the POWs in 1992: Sen. John Kerry (did you know he served in Vietnam?), Sen. John McCain (I’ve heard he broke early, but I’d do far worse), Dick Cheney, and Don Rumsfeld.

It ain’t an easy message, but was why I worked my ass off to take down Kerry in 2004 (thank you Swift Boat vets) and why I always ranked McCain dead last, after Ron Paul et. al. as a Presidential candidate. McCain *knew* we had guys left behind, because in his seven years in captivity, he met some of them. Not many; the prisoners in Laos stayed in Laos. I don’t know whether the 420 prisoners in Laos were counted as part of the 600 missing POWs, but my guess is that they were in addition to those 600. So that would leave about a 1000 POWS left.

Plus, a handful of prisoners escaped Indochina over the years. Dead prisoners don’t escape.

Vote JD in the primary. Vote your conscience in November.


42 posted on 03/05/2010 2:17:18 PM PST by bIlluminati (Don't just hope for change, work for change in 2010.)
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To: Kimberly GG
Frankly, I’m not familiar with the source, so I could care less who wrote it...

Let's put it this way, if this was written by Michael Moore, would it make you question its legitmacy? Schanberg makes Michael Moore look like a Barry Goldwater Republican and has a history of bogus, leftist propaganda. If he said it was daytime, I would double check my watch.

43 posted on 03/05/2010 2:22:38 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Mamzelle

What he better do is leave it alone.


44 posted on 03/05/2010 2:23:25 PM PST by Gator113 (I do not want Obama IMPEACHED... I want him IMPRISONED.)
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To: blau993

“I think this article is just a hateful piece of trash. “

Not true. Do your homework. Team John F. Kerry/McCain.


45 posted on 03/05/2010 2:25:09 PM PST by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: mnehring
Yes, if it were written by Moore, I would question it's legitimacy....HOWEVER, wouldn't you be curious enough about such a viscous attack that you'd research it for yourself?
46 posted on 03/05/2010 2:30:36 PM PST by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: Kimberly GG

As I mentioned above, I already believed this, most of it is common knowledge, however, now that the Nation is pushing it, it makes me question that belief.


47 posted on 03/05/2010 2:33:39 PM PST by mnehring
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To: counterpunch

What does Bud Day have to say about this?


48 posted on 03/05/2010 2:33:42 PM PST by onedoug
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To: bIlluminati
Plus, handful of prisoners escaped Indochina over the years

American POWs have been coming out of Vietnam?

49 posted on 03/05/2010 2:42:57 PM PST by ansel12 (Social liberal politicians in the GOP are easy for the left to turn, why is that?)
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To: rabscuttle385

I’m not familiar with the author but, judging by the comments on the thread, he is such a talented commie he was able to invent bills, attribute their authorship to McCain and get them inserted into the Congressional record. Amazing!


50 posted on 03/05/2010 2:45:20 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: Kimberly GG
GEEZE rabs...you’re being attacked for your source! Frankly, I’m not familiar with the source, so I could care less who wrote it....

Did you just breeze by post 35?

51 posted on 03/05/2010 2:45:31 PM PST by ansel12 (Social liberal politicians in the GOP are easy for the left to turn, why is that?)
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To: bmwcyle

“Democracy Now” is a bunch of commies.

THAT’S the truth.


52 posted on 03/05/2010 2:50:45 PM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Fido969

Who said it isn’t?


53 posted on 03/05/2010 2:56:15 PM PST by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: ozzymandus

Yeah. Jeremiah Denton sent coded messages during his. Never saw McCain do that. Colonel Ted Guy filed charges for collaboration against McCain after the POWs were released. They were swept under the rug. His father was an Admiral after all.

Colonel Guy was my father’s neighbor in Texas. I heard it from his lips prior to his death.


54 posted on 03/05/2010 3:04:30 PM PST by CholeraJoe ("We are as numerous as the stars in the heavens, and we are all gun-men.")
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To: ansel12

As a matter of fact, I must have because I didn’t see it. But that’s my point....I’m not arguing about the source...just pointing out, from a researcher’s perspective, that so long as the information checks out to be factual, the subject of whomever is the source, matters not.


55 posted on 03/05/2010 3:08:25 PM PST by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: rabscuttle385
The Nation?

I wonder if anyone at FR is still convinced you're not a troll?

56 posted on 03/05/2010 3:11:45 PM PST by Chunga (Any IDIOT who says Obama would be better for the country than McCain is a disgrace - Mark Levin)
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To: rabscuttle385
From the : New York Times, Feb. 2, 1973] paragraph 6. they mention a classified program called PAVE SPIKE which consisted of listening devices on spikes that were dropped from aircraft.

I know about that time there was an early laser targetting pod called PAVE SPIKE. Would the military really use the same name for two different programs?

57 posted on 03/05/2010 3:12:42 PM PST by saminfl
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To: rabscuttle385

I can’t stand McCain politically, but this article has my BS detector pegging like crazy.


58 posted on 03/05/2010 3:12:43 PM PST by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: Kimberly GG

That is how Howard Zinn writes and wrote ‘A People’s History of the United States’, he didn’t just make everything up, he mostly just cherry picked what he wanted to include, didn’t include what would have hurt his preconceived view and he saw everything through his own biased conclusion that he wanted to reach.

When a source is as bad as The Nation, it is useless. I used to try and wring some value out of The Nation as you are now, and I finally gave up on being able to find any usefulness with the “oldest weekly magazine in the United States and the farthest Left of all popular American magazines”.


59 posted on 03/05/2010 3:19:37 PM PST by ansel12 (Social liberal politicians in the GOP are easy for the left to turn, why is that?)
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To: rabscuttle385

This is CRAP. Why denigrate the mans service to his country? There is no need for that. What he has done in his Senate career is on the REAL record, lets judge him on that.


60 posted on 03/05/2010 3:23:11 PM PST by Paradox (The Party of Know.)
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