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Olympics: Kim wins ladies' figure skating gold medal
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Posted on 02/25/2010 11:04:43 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

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To: Loud Mime

The eventual winner of the bronze had a leg-up because she was skating on home ice and her mother died a few days ago. Based upon merit alone, Murai should have won that bronze.


21 posted on 02/26/2010 12:42:54 AM PST by Floratina
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To: Dave346

The “Korean’s” name is Yuna Kim. Rachel Flatt did not executive her routine with as much precision and is just not technically at the level of the two two skaters: Kim and Sada. Nor did she skate as well as her FELLOW American skater, Mirai Nagasu, who cam in 4th place. Joannie Rochette of Canada won the Bronze.


22 posted on 02/26/2010 12:47:09 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege ("When I survey the wondrous cross...")
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To: Floratina; Dave346
The eventual winner of the bronze had a leg-up because she was skating on home ice and her mother died a few days ago. Based upon merit alone, Murai should have won that bronze.

Yeah you are probably right on that point. Not surprised. And I've heard some people say that the discrepancy between Rochette and Mao Asada was far too close--that Asada (Silver medalist from Japan) was deserving of much higher points for her triple axels and overall performance.

I was telling Dave that Rachel Flatt wasn't the top American in the competition, Mirai Nagasu was. And no pun intended, but Flatt's performances have been "flat" overall (not just at the Olympics) and this just wasn't her moment to shine. Maybe next Olympics! I'm sure there are blossoming American legends somewhere out there.

23 posted on 02/26/2010 12:51:25 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege ("When I survey the wondrous cross...")
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To: Dave346; JoSixChip; notdownwidems; Ronin; VeniVidiVici; TigerLikesRooster
Goodness! I just read through some of the comments on this thread and some sound downright COMMUNIST. Since when are American team members entitled to medals? We've earned them in the past, because the talent level of our skaters happened to be better in the past! It just wasn't our year.

I've already explained how the judging score system has been changed to be much fairer and objective: focusing more on athletic difficulty, precision, and skill, over style. And while I've been hearing Bronze medalist Joannie Rochette might have gotten sympathy points in light of her mother's death--the two best skaters in the world earned the Gold and Silver. THEY DESERVED IT. THEY *WORKED HARD* and *COMPETED* to get it. It was capitalism at work.

I honestly don't understand all this "no fair." It sounds socialist in spirit.

24 posted on 02/26/2010 1:33:05 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege ("When I survey the wondrous cross...")
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Even the tv commentators said on the late show Flatt was underscored — she’s definitely the best US skater.


25 posted on 02/26/2010 1:40:44 AM PST by Dave346
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To: Dave346

ok, well I’m not saying she is a bad skater, but our team in general was not of the high caliber as have been in the past with skaters like Kwan, Cohen, Lipinski, and Hughes etc...


26 posted on 02/26/2010 1:47:42 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege ("When I survey the wondrous cross...")
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To: Dave346

She lost some points because of pudginess, IMHO. A dark corner of this sport is the sensuality of young women, and she still did not have that “look” that the judges expect, however well she skated.


27 posted on 02/26/2010 3:21:14 AM PST by epluribus_2
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

She was exquisite: lovely demeanor, expressive and technically perfect. It was mesmerizing watching her. She definitely deserved it.


28 posted on 02/26/2010 3:52:57 AM PST by gramho12 (Sarah, smile..)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Nice to have a scenario and a performer where all the inside information, bent judges and incessant NBC jingoism aren’t required. Oh, and no unpaid PR shilling by Christine Brennan (usually involving Michelle Kwan) required.

Kim was different class last night.


29 posted on 02/26/2010 4:13:02 AM PST by relictele
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To: Floratina

They have been going full bore Oprah on Rochette up here in Canada so that is probably true. Sentiment is worth a few points I guess.


30 posted on 02/26/2010 4:41:01 AM PST by xp38
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Hmm?

Nagai was outskated in the short program by Rochette.

62/68 vs 65/60.

I agree that Nagai should have been ranked higher. Let’s have artistic match the technical: 62/62/ vs 65/65. That bumps Nagai up 6 points. She was down by 8. Still not enough.

Nagai was simply too far back to take the Bronze.


31 posted on 02/26/2010 5:54:33 AM PST by BenKenobi (And into this Ring he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
I've worked with olympians for over thirty years...they all work hard. As Lisa Leslie said after winning GOLD in Atlanta, "You have to understand the meaning of the word 'focus.'" These kids devote their lives to their performances and are crushed when they lose.

Obviously, Mao Asada was very unhappy with her score. She hardly smiled during the medal ceremony. But, all the athletes go into their respective arts or sports knowing the power of judges. They accept it, so should the spectators and armchair commentators.

32 posted on 02/26/2010 6:19:59 AM PST by Loud Mime (Liberalism is a Socialist Disease)
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To: relictele
Oh, and no unpaid PR shilling by Christine Brennan (usually involving Michelle Kwan) required.

The pimping for Michelle Kwan always used to disgust me, especially after her pouty performance when Tara Lipinski creamed her.

The pimping was regularly of "The sun has finally come out ! There it is shining from Michelle Kwan's posterior !" level of gushing sycophancy.

In fact she was NOT as good as her competitors. Fortunately the judges didn't fall for it.

33 posted on 02/26/2010 9:32:18 AM PST by jimt
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To: VeniVidiVici

snark....


34 posted on 02/26/2010 9:33:16 AM PST by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
NBC
35 posted on 02/26/2010 10:20:52 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Mtner77

This dopey argument about what constitutes a sport crops every so often. Who really cares? A close boxing match is a “subjective” sport and mogul skiing has “style” points as well. How about the ridiculously small time fractions that separate the winners from the losers these days in a lot of racing sports. That’s more about advances in clock-making than anything that matters in the real world. All sports are made up activities that extract worth only from the fact that people like to participate in and watch them. If you don’t like a particular one, there’s always surfing the web.


36 posted on 02/26/2010 12:24:44 PM PST by Callahan
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Nagasu was better than Rochette...she got shafted by the “sympathy”vote ...not saying anything about the gold...


37 posted on 02/26/2010 9:27:43 PM PST by cherry (i)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
no one is complaining about the gold....

but the bronze medal is a medal afterall....and it really should have gone to Nagasu..

I followed on a blog with Yamaguchi and others describing what they saw and they definately gave the most attributes to the American and not Rochette....

well, that's the way it is...

what do you expect when you have a billion dollar "own the podium" campaign...you expect a few favors..

38 posted on 02/26/2010 9:32:05 PM PST by cherry (i)
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