Posted on 02/25/2010 8:51:53 PM PST by daniel1212
Good selection of articles here upholding the Biblical complementarian position. http://www.cbmw.org/Articles/
My responses here: http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/WOMENPASTORS.html To God be the glory.
Yet, I must say that the cause of feminism lays at the feet of men themselves. In MEN’s ‘total disregard for God's clearly stated place’ for MEN! Men, instead of loving their wives as commanded, and dying to themselves, as Christ died for the Church; instead of treating their wives the way they wanted to be treated, they treat them like servants or pets. Instead of submitting “one to another” as commanded in scripture...they insist on being obeyed and catered to. Men are commanded in the Bible, clearly, to “love their wives as Christ loved the church”. Christ died for the sins of the Church. Christ served his church, and washed the feet of the first members. Christ also, was faithful to the church, even when they were not faithful to him. Jesus never left the church no matter how annoying they were, or how they disappointed Him. He never expected the church to wait on him. And Christ never forced anyone to follow him or love him. He never demanded his rightful place.
We all need to remember our roles.
Also, human nature is rebellious. Humans naturally find excitment in breaking rules and social morals. This is why as morality declines society totally breaks down as it takes increasingly more hideous acts for people to feel rebellious.
It is known to be the fall of many civilizations before ours.
Jesus says, "The bride belongs to the bridegroom." Jesus says, "But why do you call me 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do the things which I say?" Jesus says, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me." Jesus says, "If you love me, you will keep my commandments." Jesus says, "You are My friends if you do whatever I command you." Jesus says, "I never knew you. Depart from me."
I believe I will emulate this Jesus, not the spineless dog you describe.
"The goal of this command is love, which comes from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. Some have wandered away from these and turned to meaningless talk. They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm." 1Tim5-7"Do you understand what I have done for you?" he asked them. "You call me 'Teacher' and 'Lord,' and rightly so, for that is what I am. Now that I, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also should wash one another's feet. I have set you an example that you should do as I have done for you. I tell you the truth, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him. Now that you know these things, you will be blessed if you do them......"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." --verses from John 13
"My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends. John 15:12-13
"This is my command: Love each other." John 15:17
"But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us." Romans 5:8
"Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good. ....... Honor one another above yourselves." Romans 12:9-10
"....Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law." Romans 13:10
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres." 1Cor13:4-7
"Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them." col.3"19
"Husbands, likewise, dwell with them with understanding, giving honor to the wife, as to the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life, that your prayers may not be hindered" 1 Peter 3:7
"Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her.......In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church—......However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband." Eph.5:25,28,29,33
"Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate."
You wish to separate what God has joined as ONE? You wish to demand that the husband is not HALF but separate? That the wife is but a servant made to obey the husband, not part of the husband?
"Another thing you do: You flood the LORD's altar with tears. You weep and wail because he no longer pays attention to your offerings or accepts them with pleasure from your hands. You ask, "Why?" It is because the LORD is acting as the witness between you and the wife of your youth, because you have broken faith with her, though she is your partner, the wife of your marriage covenant.Has not the LORD made them one? In flesh and spirit they are his. And why one? Because he was seeking godly offspring. So guard yourself in your spirit, and do not break faith with the wife of your youth.
"I hate divorce," says the LORD God of Israel," Malachi 2:13-16
"But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God."
Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord. Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.
Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything. Wives, in the same way be submissive to your husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, when they see the purity and reverence of your lives. Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hair and the wearing of gold jewelry and fine clothes. Instead, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God's sight. For this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to make themselves beautiful. They were submissive to their own husbands, like Sarah, who obeyed Abraham and called him her master. You are her daughters if you do what is right and do not give way to fear.
Ah, the thought of wives submitting to their husbands as "masters" sends a quake of hate down your rebellious spine. How horrible the thought of obeying God seems to you that you needed to create a new doctrine where women become the masters. It is no wonder the homosexuals are so bold, with self-serving children of the Devil like you acting as theologians.
Hey, thanks so much! Jesus said that since he was called the son of satan that his true followers should also expect the same. So, you have given me a blessing from my Lord. I appreciate it very much. Thanks.
It is you who chooses to ignore the men’s responsibilty and focus on the responsiblity of others. That is the definition of rebellion, by the way.
I purposefully left out the verses for wives, of course. You already seem to focus on the verses for women, forgetting the ones on husbands responsibilities.
From the start, I said that both men and women need to remember their “proper roles”—and then I pointed out the scriptural basis for the proper role for the husband. Facts is facts.
You ignorance is more obvious than ever. Jesus did not say His followers would be called "sons of the Devil," He said they would be persecuted because they do not accept the ways of the world, ways like your beloved Feminism. He did say, however, that you are of your father the Devil because he will not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. God Himself says "It is better to dwell in the wilderness, than with a contentious and an angry woman," and this truth is never more evident than today.
"And since I, the master of the household, have been called the prince of demons, the members of my household will be called by even worse names!" Matt.10:25"God blesses you when people mock you and persecute you and lie about you and say all sorts of evil things against you because you are my followers. Be happy about it! Be very glad! For a great reward awaits you in heaven. And remember, the ancient prophets were persecuted in the same way."..Matt 5:10-11
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