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Blame the Media for the Birther Movement
Townhall.com ^ | February 22, 2010 | Nick Rizzuto

Posted on 02/22/2010 12:37:24 PM PST by Kaslin

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To: wintertime

It isn’t missing. He provided it. You may not like it. But it ain’t missing. It is only “missing” in the Collective Birther Consciousness. And yes, I have been wrong before. I was a Republican for 30 years. And once, even sorta libertarian.

parsy, who always kept his eye on the truth and wasn’t afraid of it


101 posted on 02/22/2010 2:59:26 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I think it was Orly Taitz who was intimidated. I think she had a flat tire.

parsy, who says, they ain’t got FOX News, yet


102 posted on 02/22/2010 3:00:56 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: DJ MacWoW
I just want to be sane.

Tigersy Eyesy, who never knew he had so much in common with himself.

103 posted on 02/22/2010 3:03:22 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: wintertime
"SMART and SANE people do not follow people off a cliff."

Well... that would depend entirely on what was chasing them, don't you think?
104 posted on 02/22/2010 3:03:57 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: parsifal
I don't know anything about her.

I will repeat what I have already posted on this thread.

I don't care where Obama was born. He could have been born on the desk in the Oval Office with the whole cabinet watching. His father was a foreigner and that makes him ineligible.

105 posted on 02/22/2010 3:08:04 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: EnderWiggins

Obama isn’t eligible to be President no matter where he was born.


106 posted on 02/22/2010 3:09:44 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: TigersEye

You’re beginning to scare me. This is getting WAAAAAY too easy for you. Both of you. lol


107 posted on 02/22/2010 3:10:42 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: wintertime

Here, watch this:

http://vodpod.com/watch/1964520-ann-coulter-calls-birthers-cranks

parsy, the helpful


108 posted on 02/22/2010 3:11:42 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I know you believe that.

Now... come up with some evidence and perhaps you’ll make some progress on the issue.


109 posted on 02/22/2010 3:12:47 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: parsifal; wintertime
WE DON'T CARE! Why can't you understand that our opinions aren't based on what a famous name thinks?!
110 posted on 02/22/2010 3:13:35 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

That is your legal theory and you have a right to it. Others disagree:

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/01/the-great-mother-of-all-natural-born-citizen-quotation-pages/

parsy


111 posted on 02/22/2010 3:14:00 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: EnderWiggins
I was already down this road with you. Obamas father was a foreigner. He admitted on Fight the Smears Truth that he had dual citizenship. He is NOT eligible.
112 posted on 02/22/2010 3:15:35 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW
We're going to take a nap now. Let us know if we miss anything. ;^)

Tigersy Eyesy, who is worn out from having to think for two. Will we be twice as hungry when we wake up? Shut up! It's nap time.

113 posted on 02/22/2010 3:16:39 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: Kaslin
In the spirit of full disclosure, I am not a birther. I happen to believe that President Obama was born in Hawaii and was therefore eligible to be sworn in as President of the United States on inauguration day.

I happen to believe Obama was probably born in Hawaii as well...but given that his father, and baby Barry were subjects of the British Commonwealth I do have some doubts rather he qualifies as a "natural born citizen"...which would invalidate him as president if correct.

114 posted on 02/22/2010 3:17:08 PM PST by highlander_UW (Obama has lost or not saved over 4 million jobs!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Too bad that the Constitution does not say, and there is no law on the books that says a person with dual citizenship cannot be President.


115 posted on 02/22/2010 3:17:11 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: parsifal
You've become quite the after-birther!

The Origins and Interpretation of the Presidential Eligibility Clause in the U.S. Constitution: Why Did the Founding Fathers Want the President To Be a "Natural Born Citizen"

Evidence from the period right after the Constitutional Convention also supports the notion that the Founding Fathers were very concerned about foreign influence on the federal government, and in particular on the President.

The most direct evidence comes from a statement made by Charles Pinckney to the U.S. Senate in 1800. Pinckney had been a delegate to the Constitutional Convention and, on July 26, 1787, had been the first delegate to raise the issue of presidential qualifications in the debate. On March 25, 1800, the Senate was debating a bill "prescribing the mode of deciding disputed elections of President and Vice President of the United States."(54) Pinckney gave a detailed explanation for the Electoral College, emphasizing that the rules governing the Electoral College were designed so "as to make it impossible ... for improper domestic, or, what is of much more consequence, foreign influence and gold to interfere."(55)

John Yinger is Professor of Economics and Public Administration at the Maxwell School of Citizenship and Public Affairs, Syracuse University, and the father of two adoptive children, one of whom, even when old enough, will not be eligible to be President.

116 posted on 02/22/2010 3:21:34 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: TigersEye

I’ll see both of you later. ;-)


117 posted on 02/22/2010 3:22:28 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: EnderWiggins
That talking point doesn't work anymore. There's overwhelming evidence from that time that Obama is ineligible.

Tell your lefty friends that you're striking out.

118 posted on 02/22/2010 3:24:15 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW
"There's overwhelming evidence from that time that Obama is ineligible."

Only of you believe in time travel.
119 posted on 02/22/2010 3:27:33 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: Bad Jack Bauer
I am not commenting on whether the Birthers are legitimate or not or whether they have a case or not. They may, I just doubt that anything will come of it.

Maybe... maybe not.

Bush ran for, and won, a second term.

If Obama runs for a second term, this will be an issue as all the other candidates will provide their birth certificates and demand that Obama do the same or face criticism over what he's hiding. The candidates will ask the voters to choose a president who is open and honest about their backgrounds over someone with something to hide.

Some states may even tighten up their candidate qualification regulations to demand positive proof of eligibility other than a flimsy-worded document from Nancy Pelosi.

If Obama chooses to not run again in 2012, then something may indeed have come from this.

-PJ

120 posted on 02/22/2010 3:28:23 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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