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The CFC Ban: Global Warming's Pilot Episode
American Thinker ^ | February 04, 2010 | David S. Van Dyke

Posted on 02/21/2010 12:49:35 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Doesn’t/didn’t a big bud of Albore’s hold the patent to the freon replacement?

More payola to special interests?


41 posted on 02/21/2010 4:10:12 PM PST by FrogMom (No such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: FrogMom

Don’t know...?


42 posted on 02/21/2010 4:43:49 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: EggsAckley

It’s simple. Getting control of CO2 is getting control of everything. It is the totalitarian bureaucratic panacea.


43 posted on 02/21/2010 4:44:02 PM PST by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"It is significant to note that this was not proven, but was based on other work that showed the potential of nitric oxide (NO) to catalyze ozone."

Nope. Not true. The "smoking gun" chlorine radical was detected and measured in the atmosphere years ago. However, that does zip to validate global warming, which IS only theory.

44 posted on 02/21/2010 5:31:17 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel (NRA))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

http://www.chemheritage.org/EducationalServices/faces/env/readings/solomon.htm

“Dr. Solomon had used computer models to study the chemistry of the atmosphere. Now her work was about to become as hands-on as it gets. Working from McMurdo Base, Antarctica, she measured how the air above the frozen south absorbed the moonlight of the long polar night. Handling the cold in stride like a true Chicagoan (her right eyelid once froze shut while collecting data outdoors), she was able to detect high levels of chlorine oxide (ClO) in the stratosphere.”

“In a 1987 expedition, high-flying airplanes collected more data showing chlorine oxide in great abundance over Antarctica. This convinced most scientists that the reaction mechanism of Molina’s theories was causing the ozone loss, rather than natural causes.”


45 posted on 02/21/2010 5:37:10 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel (NRA))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I look at Lake Havasu every now and then.

*************

Go there and look in August before you decide.


46 posted on 02/21/2010 7:01:34 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (A "tea bagger"? Say it to my face. ><BCC>)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The writer is correct that the CFC was a dry run on the Global Warming scam. It was based on the flimsiest of evidence. Didn’t help much that Dow’s patent on the CFCs in question was expiring, and that they had a new patented replacement in the chutes just in time for it.


47 posted on 02/21/2010 7:12:05 PM PST by zeugma (Proofread a page a day: http://www.pgdp.net/)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

later


48 posted on 02/21/2010 7:36:23 PM PST by DBrow
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To: zeugma

http://cei.org/pdf/1184.pdf

Doomsday Deja Vu: Ozone Depletion’s Lessons for Global Warming by Ben Leiberman

written 14 years ago - should be credited


49 posted on 02/21/2010 7:39:33 PM PST by bricks4all2
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To: FlingWingFlyer
If they were going to have any chance at all of convincing us that the planet was getting hotter, they knew they’d have to take away our air conditioning and refrigerators.

Hmmm. Never heard that before. Has similarities to how Hansen testified before Congress and started the whole AGW train rolling. They left the windows open after scheduling the hottest day statistically in DC.

The other common factor between the debates concerning regulations on CFC and CO2, is that both required and assumed that solar energetic output fluctuations were insignificant. O3 is created in the atmosphere by very energetic UV radiation. They always just assumed that the energetic UV radiation output of the sun never changed significantly. Now we know that assumption was wrong. They also assumed that visible light radiation from the sun did not vary enough to make the sun a significant factor in warming. That turned out to be correct, but other forms of energetic output of the sun has been found to vary dramatically.

50 posted on 02/21/2010 8:48:42 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The Ozone Hole was bigger in 2008 then it was in 1995. Why have they stopped warning use about the UV dangers ? Use to even report the UV index on the nightly news.


51 posted on 02/21/2010 9:04:30 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

You have solved the earth’s secret. The earth is actually an eye ball.


52 posted on 02/21/2010 9:10:51 PM PST by jetson
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To: jetson

One looking down at us no doubt as we continue sacrificing our selves to false gods.


53 posted on 02/21/2010 9:19:31 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

Bookmark


54 posted on 02/21/2010 10:39:57 PM PST by Publius6961 (You can't build a reputation on what you are going to do)
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To: zeugma
"Didn’t help much that Dow’s patent on the CFCs in question was expiring, and that they had a new patented replacement in the chutes just in time for it."

Dow has never had any patents on CFC's. Dupont was and is the patentee.

55 posted on 02/22/2010 3:10:28 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel (NRA))
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To: Wonder Warthog
Dow has never had any patents on CFC's. Dupont was and is the patentee.

I stand corrected on that. Thanks. Doesn't change the fact that the fact that a politically connected company assisted in this hoax which ended up costing us all a lot of money.. I was up on all this stuff way back when, but it's been a while and a lot has happened since then. :-)

56 posted on 02/22/2010 7:05:43 AM PST by zeugma (Proofread a page a day: http://www.pgdp.net/)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Seadog Bytes; ApplegateRanch; Pharmboy; hennie pennie; AdmSmith; Berosus; ...
Thanks Seadog Bytes: Thanks ApplegateRanch and Pharmboy: Thanks neverdem: and thanks Ernest:
57 posted on 02/22/2010 6:25:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Killer list! Thanks!


58 posted on 02/25/2010 10:37:48 PM PST by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: Seadog Bytes

My pleasure. :’)


59 posted on 02/26/2010 7:16:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Freedom is Priceless.)
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