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Third Lockheed Martin F-35B Lands At NAS Patuxent River
Air-Attack.com ^ | 2/19/2010 | Lockheed Martin

Posted on 02/19/2010 10:23:53 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld

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To: JoSixChip

The F-35 is smaller, is meant to fill multiple roles, and it sucks at all of them.


21 posted on 02/20/2010 6:57:03 AM PST by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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To: OCC
That and about $100 million dollars and 1,000 mph.

Wrong on both counts.

22 posted on 02/20/2010 8:17:10 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
STOL(sic) version of the F-35 uses

The Naval variant, F-35C, is known as the CV - Carrier Variant - not STOL.

the tailhook that the USAF doesn't want to drag around.

That would be a break from historical practice.


F-15


F-16

F-22 Raptor Kadena AFB landing with tail hook

Still an STOL carrier stealth aircraft is a big step up from the 1970-era F-14.

This aircraft can't match many of the performance characteristics of the F-14.

F-17(sic) is only slightly newer.

The F-17 doesn't exist. The prototype YF-17 became the F/A-18.

The VTOL(sic) F-35

The F-35B is known as the STOVL - Short Take Off/ Vertical Landing variant - not VTOL.

loads an engine(sic) inside to give vertical thrust

Shaft driven lift fan.


23 posted on 02/20/2010 9:13:03 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: OCC
Whats the two smaller doors for?

Those are Auxiliary Inlet Doors. They allow extra air into the engine during STOVL operation.


24 posted on 02/20/2010 9:39:43 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Mariner
Keep 'em comin'

Great comment. I won't tell you the "F" number when I first went to Pax but it only had one digit.

I bet you remember the Belvedere and the Roost.

25 posted on 02/20/2010 9:54:07 AM PST by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: sonofstrangelove

After seeing that particularly revealing chart, I’m beginning to wonder if the powers-that-be are leaving the F-22 production run low on purpose to make the cost look that much better for the F-35.

IMO, one mistake that is made over and over is to try and make your airframe do more than what is originally intended when the Request For Proposeal is sent out.

After reading about the F-35 development for years, I believe it will become an albatross around the Navy’s neck. If they even accept it.


26 posted on 02/20/2010 11:35:41 AM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Cool pictures. Somewhere I have a picture of a P-51D Mustang/Seahorse arresting on a carrier.


27 posted on 02/20/2010 12:06:31 PM PST by PLMerite (Ride to the sound of the Guns - I'll probably need help.)
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To: JoSixChip

Nobody has figured out how to do STOVL with multiple engines in a conventional layout. How would you synchronize the thrust precisely without enducing a roll problem?


28 posted on 02/20/2010 9:08:43 PM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: JoSixChip
So it is not vertical take off, but short take off and land STOL?

Taking off vertically is too expensive in terms of fuel. You also can't carry much of a weapons load. Hence you use a short takeoff roll.

29 posted on 02/20/2010 9:10:08 PM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

The Navy carrier version of the F-35 has a broader wing to allow for better low-speed characteristics — safer carrier landing approaches. You also get the bonus of more volume to store fuel. Might be a better dogfighter than the USAF version, too, since greater wing area usually leads to a more maneuverable design.

I think that some USAF aircraft now incorporate a tailhook. Pretty sure the F-16 does. The idea is to use a portable arresting gear system to allow for landings on cratered runways.


30 posted on 02/20/2010 9:15:54 PM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: sonofstrangelove; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; ...

Maryland PING!


31 posted on 02/21/2010 11:56:24 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I am Ellie Light.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham; Tallguy; Yo-Yo

Thank you for the details. And corrections.


32 posted on 02/22/2010 12:28:16 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Yo-Yo

Steel tires for testing so they don’t burn up rubber ones during long runs on the test grating?


33 posted on 02/22/2010 12:29:39 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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