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Sukhoi PAK FA: First Observations(Part 2)
Defense Professionals ^ | 02/11/2010 | Sergio Coniglio

Posted on 02/11/2010 12:06:33 AM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld

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To: sonofstrangelove

>The Germans in WW II developed stealth technology by the Horton Brothers. The developed the HO-229 in 1944.

Experimental HO-229 is nothing to do with “stealth” in modern conception.
Russia has advanced material science, airframe designs and math to implement stealth technology.
So why Russia should be “50 years behind of the USA when it comes to stealth technology?”


21 posted on 02/11/2010 1:38:43 AM PST by Primorsky
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To: Primorsky

Showing your pro-Russia colors again


22 posted on 02/11/2010 1:39:29 AM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: MediaMole

>Yes, the theory behind stealth was a Russian discovery, but the aircraft designers never put it into practice. They have had great designers and mathematicians, but the political structure didn’t reward risk takers.

Air force never was main priority in Soviet army. It’s not surprising that Ufimtsev’s theoretical work was not used for practical works in USSR.

>At this point, the new fighter is more like an F-18E, with reduced radar cross section, rather than true stealth.

Why its RCS should be matched with 4th-generation F-18E???
PAKFA has a lot of stealth features: small inclined tail, big usage of composites, internal weapons bays, S-shaped inlet channels.
F-18 still uses classical 4th generation airframe design with external pylons for weapons.


23 posted on 02/11/2010 2:06:28 AM PST by Primorsky
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“Air force never was main priority in Soviet army. It’s not surprising that Ufimtsev’s theoretical work was not used for practical works in USSR.”

Air power never was main priority of the Soviet military. Why? Because the Russians know that air power cannot hold ground, only masses of troops can do that - which is why they had enormous armies and proportionatly few planes. Troop casualties were considered insignifigant; they were prepared to lose tens of thousands of troops in any conflict with the west (cf the taking of Germany in WWII).

One other reason air power was not a major consideration was the Russians planned on taking out western fighter bases with tactical nukes. Leaving only their long range bombers and fighters flying. Using nukes was and is always the Russian first response to direct conflict with the west.


24 posted on 02/11/2010 3:49:28 AM PST by PIF
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To: James C. Bennett

Finally, an accurate cutaway drawing. Thanks!


25 posted on 02/11/2010 3:56:18 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: James C. Bennett

Cool picture there!


26 posted on 02/11/2010 5:34:54 PM PST by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: MediaMole

No, more like the F-35 Lightning II, with forward aspect stealth, as opposed to the F-22 Raptor’s all-aspect stealth.


27 posted on 02/11/2010 5:36:10 PM PST by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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