Me and the majority of patriotic Americans. Yes, we do.
Posted on 02/09/2010 1:44:33 PM PST by sickoflibs
And I'm not.
There was NO REAL PLANNING on the part of the WH for post-war Iraq. Otherwise, they might’ve left Garner in charge instead of flailing around with the State Department.
Have you ever had a passing acquaintance with the truth?
Shinseki's numbers were based on nothing. It is a leftist myth which you embrace like a warm woman on a cold night.
The fact is that Gen. Shinseki failed to prepare his service for the kind of war that emerged in Iraq in 2003: an insurgency. The “surge” implemented in 2007 by Gen. David Petraeus was successful not only because of an increase troop strength. It was successful because of the application of a new counterinsurgency doctrine that Gen. Shinseki and most other Army generals had rejected. As Garofano observes, the situation in Iraq “comes down, as it did in Vietnam, to analysis, getting it right, and providing clear alternatives that address or confront policy goals.” In the final instance, this Shinseki failed to do.
Same with the "No Planning" crap. No plan survives the first shot and you should know that lefty based on your communications with the SecDef.
Improvise, adapt, overcome. That is the crap that happens in war. Only left wing loons and other assorted malcontents can't wrap their arms around that truth.
Do you get your talking points directly from Keith Olberman or through a filter?
That was good advice and I'm glad you've recognized the error of your youthful liberal ways. :)
Yeah, me too but sadly Bush was a lame duck because he lost support of a lot of Americans because they bought the crap that the left and MSM were selling. Like the Shinseki myth.
Good article from The American Thinker, CSM. Thanks.
“Have you ever had a passing acquaintance with the truth?”
Why, yes... I do. Shinseki was right that more troops were needed. That his reasons weren’t the correct ones in hindsight does not change that fact. He was wrong on plenty of other things - like no longer needing heavy divisions and issuing everyone a beret.
“Same with the “No Planning” crap. No plan survives the first shot and you should know that lefty based on your communications with the SecDef.”
No battle plan does, but there was no real planning on how to handle the war after that. The DOD had a plan. The WH didn’t.
I didn’t communicate with the SecDef. We were all sent a copy of “Rumsfeld’s Rules”. I still find it amusing that you LBJ II defenders have the gall to call conservatives “lefty”.
“Do you get your talking points directly from Keith Olberman or through a filter?”
If Keith weren’t such an idiot, he would’ve realized that George W. Bush was the best ally he and his side have had in years.
STOP DEFENDING LIBERALISM!
“Yeah, me too but sadly Bush was a lame duck because he lost support of a lot of Americans because they bought the crap that the left and MSM were selling. Like the Shinseki myth.”
He waited YEARS to take off those gloves. Long after it was clear it was required. If he was a “lame duck” later, it’s because he betrayed his oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States and thus lost conservative support.
Bush was on the Left. He was apparently good enough at snowing people under that there are still some who can’t see that - like you.
“And I’m not.”
You aren’t interested in discussion with anyone.
I’ll have to grant the GOP leadership one thing:
They’ve managed to continue to fool at least some people that they are conservatives.
Disagree with LBJ Mk 2’s liberal agenda and get branded a lefty, be told you are mentally ill, or don’t believe in God.
It’s sad.
Me and the majority of patriotic Americans. Yes, we do.
“Me and the majority of patriotic Americans. Yes, we do.”
I don’t miss LBJ II. I miss Reagan - the last President who wasn’t a damnable globalist tool.
No, Bush was center right about where the country is and way to left of me but he wasn't a man of the left. You on the other hand have been spoon fed leftist talking points that you use to slander a good but flawed man. You make me ill.
“No, Bush was center right about where the country is and way to left of me but he wasn’t a man of the left. “
He expanded government more than LBJ, doubled the debt, and attempted to drown us in Democrats. That’s not “center right”. Duncan Hunter is “center right”.
“You make me ill.”
Seeing someone claiming to be a conservative defending a lib makes me ill.
LOL, very funny. Shinseki wasn't even in the game yet lefties use him as a club to pound Bush over the head. You do the same thus I can't distinguish you from a lefty.
No battle plan does, but there was no real planning on how to handle the war after that. The DOD had a plan. The WH didn’t.More BS from from you. Nobody foresaw the depth of the insurgency and the numbers of jihadists and deadenders flowing in. Eventually Bush found the right guy who adapted, overcame and soldiered on. This is the way of war. Warriors die because higher ups make mistakes. This too is the way of war. Ever it was and ever it shall be.
I didn’t communicate with the SecDef. We were all sent a copy of “Rumsfeld’s Rules”. I still find it amusing that you LBJ II defenders have the gall to call conservatives “lefty”.
I'd be happy to call you lefty to your face sparky. You don't like the nickname stop using Keith Olberman talking points and get familiar with the truth. Shinseki was wrong. He never offered an opinion on using more troops when asked by the Chief of Staff prior to the war. Bush did not support terrorists, he ordered them killed. Your untruthful claims to the contrary are as far left as I've seen on this board.
If Keith weren’t such an idiot, he would’ve realized that George W. Bush was the best ally he and his side have had in years.
If you weren't such an idiot you'd realize that you are Keith olberman's useful idiot.
STOP DEFENDING LIBERALISM!
I was fighting liberalism when you were still crapping your pants sparky. But I don't suffer liars and dissemblers well. Never have, never will.
Well, dragnet (since you felt compelled to post to me twice with meaningless insults
They were not insults Ohio Bush fan. My comment suggesting you seek professional mental help was serious. When ya start treating government politicians like celebrities, that were appointed by God, and become a, "Fan"....Well...Lets just say you need serious help.
“LOL, very funny. Shinseki wasn’t even in the game yet lefties use him as a club to pound Bush over the head. You do the same thus I can’t distinguish you from a lefty.”
Shinseki wasn’t the only one stating that the post-invasion estimates were wrong.
“More BS from from you. Nobody foresaw the depth of the insurgency and the numbers of jihadists and deadenders flowing in. Eventually Bush found the right guy who adapted, overcame and soldiered on.”
Not BS. Of course, if you don’t believe the DOD on the matter....
“I’d be happy to call you lefty to your face sparky.”
I’d pay to see you do that. Seriously. It’d be fun.
“u don’t like the nickname stop using Keith Olberman talking points and get familiar with the truth. “
Stop defending liberals. Bush was a liberal.
“Bush did not support terrorists, he ordered them killed. “
He ordered some killed. Others, he supported. Your statement is not directly a lie, but is not a complete truth.
“If you weren’t such an idiot you’d realize that you are Keith olberman’s useful idiot.”
I’m not the one claiming a progressive agenda was “conservative”.
“I was fighting liberalism when you were still crapping your pants sparky. But I don’t suffer liars and dissemblers well. Never have, never will.”
Physician, heal thyself.
ping
Discussion?? When have you ever tried that with anyone?
Do you have a problem with Michelle Malkin’s post here? Or you just doing more trolling at this thread about stuff that has nothing to do with it?
Michelle Malkin take-no-prisoners BUMP.
I recognize, along with the vast majority of Bible believing Christians, that President Bush was appointed by God, that he was a man of integrity, that he was a pro-life champion, that he behaved with honor and class and in doing so "heaped coals of fire" on the heads of his enemies, spoke out for liberty at home and abroad (including standing with the Christians in China and against the government), and because I see the hand of God in his election (in spite of the attempts of the demonic left to counter the will of the American people).......because of my faith in God, and my recognition that George W. Bush sought His wisdom and guidance in very difficult days when America was assaulted, you believe I need psychological counseling.
If I didn't realize that you were actually serious in your absurdity, I would just laugh at you. But because you truly seem to believe the tripe you just posted, I took the time to explain in a rational, Biblical manner.
I hope you start thinking about it, and keep your knees from jerking so violently.
I am praying with all my heart for God to bring forth other leaders who follow Him, and who seek His guidance to lead America both in the elections coming up in 2010 and especially in 2012.
If you believe that God still has His hand on this blessed country, I urge you to join me in prayer for representatives with integrity.
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