Posted on 02/04/2010 3:37:43 AM PST by 1234
I quoted you from your post #55 ... how ancient are you, anyway?
Are you telling me that the black vote would vote for Hillary over Obummer, the Marxist now posing as a Fascist? I doubt that. old curmudgeon You may need some help understand the following, which is a repeat of the comment you flipped 180 degrees in order to attack my post:
“... had the black vote stayed home in 2008, which they surely would have done had Hillary taken the nomination based upon exposing Barry’s ineligibility.”
Other than that, is there something being put in your apple sauce and you just failed to put a “not” in your twisted rendering of the meaning of what I wrote?
Since mine was a direct quote of your post, I believe it is you that have difficulties.
In addition, I asked you directly whether I understood your post correctly.
A reasonable person would have replied with an explanation that my interpretation was correct or if incorrect, why it was not correct.
Perhaps you should determine whether you can handle your sauce rather than questioning the contents of mine.
Correction:
The following should not have been in my last post. I did not include a direct quote in #55. However, this error does not change the meaning of any of my posts.
I believe as barry hussein continues to TANK, we will soon see a stealth birther movement from the Left.
We already have leftists agitprops working the birther threads. Short hop to what you suggest. Just look at the poor but determined effort by the old cur above, to twist another’s post and fabricate an argument with the poorly constructed strawman it sought to erect.
I have a different reason why Hillary did not blow the whistle about BHO’s eligibility. The same forces that raised BHO to presidential level and brought McCain from the bottom of the Republican pile were the same forces that brought Bill Clinton out of the shadows for POTUSA. These forces just told Hillary to shut up because they had a new carrier.The only dot in this scenario is who are the ‘forces’. Soros could be one, Rockefellers could be another. Who else? This sure makes for a lot of smoke.
I would not doubt that.
She is as mercenary as anyone in DC, so I suspect she saw an opportunity.
Just what that opportunity was is not yet known, but as in almost all things it will be known eventually.
Orly’s Quo Warranto is based on, among other facts, the basic fact that by his own admission his father was a Kenyan and subject to British rule he is not a natural born citizen as defined in the Law of Nations and as required by the Constitution.
I have a different reason why Hillary did not blow the whistle about BHO’s eligibility. The same forces that raised BHO to presidential level and brought McCain from the bottom of the Republican pile were the same forces that brought Bill Clinton out of the shadows for POTUSA. These forces just told Hillary to shut up because they had a new carrier.The only dot in this scenario is who are the ‘forces’. Soros could be one, Rockefellers could be another. Who else? This sure makes for a lot of smoke.
Orly’s Quo Warranto is based on, among other facts, the basic fact that by his own admission his father was a Kenyan and subject to British rule he is not a natural born citizen as defined in the Law of Nations and as required by the Constitution.
True about Arthur,but there is more to that part of history. Arthur became POTUSA after Garfield was asassinated. Garfield as far as I know had parents who were both citizenS and was born in Ohio and thereby met all Constitutional requirerments. There was political friction between Garfield and Arthur supporters with apparently a lot of “dirty tricks’ that ended in Garfields demise. Arthur’s father was also into Canada and the USA and history proves people will sneak around or usurp the Constitution: but the Constitution was not changed or modified for Arthur or BHO.
True about Arthur,but there is more to that part of history. Arthur became POTUSA after Garfield was asassinated. Garfield as far as I know had parents who were both citizenS and was born in Ohio and thereby met all Constitutional requirerments. There was political friction between Garfield and Arthur supporters with apparently a lot of “dirty tricks’ that ended in Garfields demise. Arthur’s father was also into Canada and the USA and history proves people will sneak around or usurp the Constitution: but the Constitution was not changed or modified for Arthur or BHO.
You seem to me to read that Amendment 14 Section 1 cancels out the word ‘natural’ as applied to the Article II requirement for ‘natural born citizen’. I don’t believe this happened and there are others that have said there are two classes of citizens in the Constitution whether it hurts our sensitivity or not 1) there is a natural born citizen with birth as defined in the Law of Nations and 2) there are ordinary citizens such as born in the US or naturalized in the US. One can easily discern that the 14th amendment was made to make certain of the #2 kind of citizen without any other chacterization but it did not remove the right to be a natural born citizen.
This was of interest to me because neither my brother who was killed on Okinawa nor I also a WWII vet were eligible for POTUSA because neither though born in the mid-west was born of citizens. We were just citizens and proud of that. Our mother was natualized later in life, became an ordinary citizen and was also proud of that.
You seem to me to read that Amendment 14 Section 1 cancels out the word ‘natural’ as applied to the Article II requirement for ‘natural born citizen’. I don’t believe this happened and there are others that have said there are two classes of citizens in the Constitution whether it hurts our sensitivity or not 1) there is a natural born citizen with birth as defined in the Law of Nations and 2) there are ordinary citizens such as born in the US or naturalized in the US. One can easily discern that the 14th amendment was made to make certain of the #2 kind of citizen without any other chacterization but it did not remove the right to be a natural born citizen.
This was of interest to me because neither my brother who was killed on Okinawa nor I also a WWII vet were eligible for POTUSA because neither though born in the mid-west was born of citizens. We were just citizens and proud of that. Our mother was natualized later in life, became an ordinary citizen and was also proud of that.
I found the Indiana case you cited and my reading is somewhat different than dismissal of facts of eligibility. Apparently the courts ruled that because the filing was after the congressional approval it is too late to make a filing which might have and should have been done at an earlier stage of the election.The courts said congress has to act now. However, Quo Warranto pleadings apparently do apply after someone is in office by usurpation and it will be interesting to see if the courts dismiss these which can present meritorious facts.
Did you read the decision of the Indiana Court of Appeals’ Section B entitled “Native Born Citizen”?
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