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No Help in Sight, More Homeowners Walk Away
NYT ^ | 02/03/10 | DAVID STREITFELD

Posted on 02/03/2010 7:05:10 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

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NYPost carried a smiliar article on 'walking away' a few days ago.
1 posted on 02/03/2010 7:05:11 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; PAR35; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; happygrl; ...

P!


2 posted on 02/03/2010 7:05:42 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Yep, however that is not a happy story either. Try getting credit at a reasonable interest rate after doing that.


3 posted on 02/03/2010 7:25:47 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid")
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Is everyone a victim to the Times? Are all the lending institutions evil and greedy?


4 posted on 02/03/2010 7:27:09 AM PST by johniegrad
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Are all the lending institutions evil and greedy?

Nope, but it was a systematic conspiracy from top to bottom, from GS to your local real estate agent, loan broker and builder, to extract as much in fees out of the flow of funds involved in forever leveraging up the total global real estate holdings. When valuations exceeded some large multiple of value and when then difference was borrowed from a banking system willing to lend it, there are no "innocent" parties except perhaps the young person starting out life who has a job and a family and just needs a place to live and has no control over what the masters of the universe have done.

Want a guilty party. Try Greenpsan who made the statement that it did not ever occur to him that executives would put their companies at risk by engaging in this kind of behavior, exactly while watching for a decade while they engaged in exactly this kind of bahavior. No, not one decade. Three decades. Just that after two decades of getting away with it they got really greedy.

5 posted on 02/03/2010 7:33:32 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Hey Benjamin, you are a financially illiterate moron for buying an overpriced condo at the peak of a the Housing bubble. That’s life.


6 posted on 02/03/2010 7:33:58 AM PST by petercooper (GOP: Big Tent Party??? Not if you are a CONSERVATIVE.)
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To: johniegrad
It is NYT, after all.
Anyway, the real news is that NYT’s of the world are now covering the looming large-scale default of home loans. Things are really bad, when even Zero's cheerleaders have to acknowledge it.
7 posted on 02/03/2010 7:35:01 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: AndyJackson
In your scenario, you blame everyone but the individual who took out loans they couldn't afford.

In my opinion, I would agree with you for the individual who, through no part of his own, loses his job.

Otherwise, people have to be responsible for poor borrowing decisions. The fact that the money was available does not make taking it irresponsibly any more responsible.

8 posted on 02/03/2010 7:38:45 AM PST by johniegrad
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I didn’t read far enough into the article to get to the part where they blame Bush, but since it’s the NYT, whatever they end up concluding is pure propaganda and decidedly irrelevant.


9 posted on 02/03/2010 7:40:22 AM PST by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: Spok
Yes, ignore their conclusion.
10 posted on 02/03/2010 7:47:40 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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So when you owe more on your car than it’s worth, you just walk away. Let it be repossessed by the bank.

So much for your credit rating.

Where was it guaranteed that the house you bought would appreciate in value or even not go down in value?


11 posted on 02/03/2010 7:48:11 AM PST by Carley (Are you better off now than one year ago? HELL NO!!!!!)
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NYT is shilling for the Barney Frank Cramdown plan again


12 posted on 02/03/2010 7:49:08 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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Wait until this Bozo gets the tax bill after the bank dumps it in a short sale and then he gets charged a tax gain in the difference between his mortgage and what they sold it for.


13 posted on 02/03/2010 8:03:53 AM PST by marlon
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This is killing localities. When these people bogue on their mortgage, they are likely also bogueing on the property taxes as well, and that puts small towns and County governments in dire straits.

Here it meant 44 layoffs in town, 20 more open positions that will go unfilled and a bunch more people who are being offered early retirement. That may sound good on the surface to some, but when the very real services that we expect our cities to provide start going away the problems will only mount.

We are seeing the beginnings of a completely new paradigm emerging that is going to fundamentally change the way we live and do business in this Country. We have so far outgrown our capacity to support ourselves in any that the change that is coming is going to be traumatic, and probably fatal for many.


14 posted on 02/03/2010 8:09:31 AM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts...)
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To: sickoflibs

Do you mean the way people who file bankruptcy start recieving regular credit card approvals a mere 3 months AFTER FILING a bankruptcy? (even before discharge)

This is no longer as big an issue as you think.


15 posted on 02/03/2010 8:10:05 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Carley
Where was it guaranteed that the house you bought would appreciate in value or even not go down in value?

Its in the Constitution after free health care and cheap gas. Dude...read.

16 posted on 02/03/2010 8:11:26 AM PST by GUNGAGALUNGA (Democratus Suckus Teatus is the Latin root for Democrat and it means to tax)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Why would you walk away solely based on what you think the house is worth? Look at your car, people.

I predict in 3 years, the Democrats will be screaming for banks to loan money to people with bad credit again.


17 posted on 02/03/2010 8:12:10 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Deflationary for sure...


18 posted on 02/03/2010 8:13:05 AM PST by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: marlon

“he gets charged a tax gain in the difference between his mortgage and what they sold it for.”

Mortgage value is irrelevant to tax value. If you bought it for $200k and they sold it for $125k, that’s a loss. It doesn’t how much you owe on it.


19 posted on 02/03/2010 8:14:23 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: GUNGAGALUNGA

And I just remembered, the constitution also guarantees you the right to kill your baby in your womb and get the gummint to pay for it too.


20 posted on 02/03/2010 8:16:01 AM PST by Carley (Are you better off now than one year ago? HELL NO!!!!!)
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