Posted on 02/01/2010 3:48:14 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
Like I said in the other thread about this “fighter”...
It will eventually become Raptorpoopski at the end of the day...
In this case if the Indians buy it, hehehe, it have a hint of curry powder, to give it a little kick...
It’ll be nice ‘n stealthy as long as its unarmed. When you hang weapons on it, kiss stealth goodbye. There’s no internal weapons storage. And the engines are junk.
Cancel the failed V-22 Osprey already! It can't be said enough by aircraft engineers like myself.
Why is the Osprey is a failed aircraft ?
Too bad Obama effectively cancelled the Raptors.
Ping
You’re the first person to say that it has no internal storage-
About the engines, well the Al-41 is undergoing tests now.
Look at the ventral area...Those “access” panels look a little too sleek to be anything but panels to house internal weapons stores...Looks like ony 4...
But I have a good feeling they do not work as well as the versions on our F-22...
Pilot probably has to turn a hand crank to open, then lower the missile into the slipstream, then get out, crawl over and light the fuse...;-)
I really think we should be worried now...;-)
Notice the serious lack of surface area in the vertical stabs??? Those things look awfully small...
Some pilot might think they are invincible, or Tom Cruise or something...
Controllability???
hehehe, this just looks too damn funny to me...
It is foolish to underestimate the Russians.
What would they do if they were to see thousands of F-22’s all across America? make more aircraft?
We have the technology to create exact looking replicas to the point of fooling the most sophisticated satellite, even with heat sources. And we have been doing this since before WW2.
They went broke trying to keep up with America before, most notably the titanium subs and Typhoons.
Yes, we had a real President then.
President Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010 in October 2009, without funding for F-22 production.
Period.
We are going to have a mere handful of these birds.
That’s actually a pretty good idea...But dirnit, you know the Russians monitor this website...;-)
Well, if they startt ramping up productions of the ole T-34’s, then I believe we may have a problem...right??? ;-)
The only way I could really be concerned would be if the Russkies were to manage cold fusion technology and decided to use it in their weapons platforms, then size or simplicity in materials doesn’t matter, they could make tanks the size of destroyers, aircraft carriers the size of icebergs or just convert an iceberg into a floating city capable of re-icing its hull in tropical waters, the Brits had a concept of a Pycrete aircraft carrier.
With Obama cutting the balls off NASA now its going to be interesting to see if they decide to head back into space, or more to the direction of establishing space capable weapons systems.
Well, I really don’t see much of a change in Russo-American relations to the point where we’ll lose our seats on the TM’s going up to the ISS anytime soon...
Remember the Constellation was the big thing that is proposed to be shelved...
Ares will still be on call, once we get those things finished up and we’ll still have a LEO capability with a slight gap that is being filled by the russians...
A change in administration will get NASA back on track to the moon and mars soon enough...
NASA will still be working out the paper on a heavy lift capability to coinside with a well vetted out Ares program...
The Russians do not want us to lag behind too far...The Moon and Mars will ultimately be a joint/international trip...No one can do it alone...
But I still think that A/C they got here is a bucket of bolts...As Scotty would say...;-)
Interesting how people talk smack without knowing what they heck they are talking about.
To TonyTitan: The PakFa has internal storage ...two dual bays on the central line for long-range AAMs, and two side bays for short-range IIR AAMs. Total internal storage is said to be 8 - 10 missiles. Thus the 'no internal storage' is not true. Furthermore, it will have supercruising engines ...the target for the PakFa is supercruise at around Mach 2. Even assuming the Russians only manage mach 1.5, that would be better than any fighter apart from the Raptor at >1.7m.
Stevie: You say that the vertical slabs (slabs????) have to little surface area and that 'they look awfully small.' Well, it is not about looks but functionality. The ENTIRE tail moves ...all of it. Not a slight rudder function ...the whole thing moves. The ENTIRE thing is surface area, not just a small strip. Furthermore, the plane has 3-D TVC (the Raptor has 2 dimensional thrust vectoring), as well as having a LERX on the leading edge of the plane. The PakFa is not just very maneuverable ...it has extreme maneuvrability.
Thus, yes it is a 'commie fighter,' but this is one commie fighter that made all legacy generation fighters obsolete. It is not a match for the Raptor, but then there are only 180 something odd Raptors to contend with.
The SR-71 had all movable Vstabs. But I don’t believe some comments about suprercruise reaching M2.2 or even 1.5. From what I have read, that was the top speed and russian powerplants always fell behind US made in performance, reliability and especially fuel management. I don’t think that it will be as stealthy either if it will carry external stores on the wings.
[Interesting how people talk smack without knowing what they heck they are talking about.]
You should practice what you preach...
[To TonyTitan: The PakFa has internal storage.]
Wow, you be the king-swinging-photo-intel-weenie-of-the-week, good snag there...Welcome to the party...
[Stevie: You say that the vertical slabs (slabs????)]
Apparently you didn’t catch the speeling error (on your part) I said “stabs” not “slabs”, meaning stabilizers...
I know I may only have a rudementary knowledge of modern aircraft design and principles...But I defer to your outstanding ability to talk smack to those of us you feel are smack-talkers themselves...
And BTW:
[It’ll be nice ‘n stealthy as long as its unarmed. When you hang weapons on it, kiss stealth goodbye. There’s no internal weapons storage. And the engines are junk.]
That I believe was posted by someone else, and for the record, I would not be calling them smack talkers either, they just made an observation, an opinion, a guess...And that’s ok, it’s what makes a place like this fun to hang around...Not a serious collection of people who claim to know everything...But in your case, I would make an exception...
Now go seek life and entertainment elsewhere, you bore me...See ya!
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