Posted on 01/31/2010 11:49:28 AM PST by Son House
A recent study conducted for the Housing and Community Development Department by Alta Vista Research showed 21.9 percent of all arrests occur at Section 8 addresses, a disproportionate number since Section 8 makes up only 3.9 percent of addresses in Dubuque.
That number of arrests, however, is rivaled by the 20.3 percent of arrestees who claim out-of-town addresses or no permanent address.
The Chicago Housing Authority's voucher waiting list is about 58,000.
...In September, Chicago news outlets reported 100 people waited overnight outside of a South Side community center because they heard the waiting list would open in the morning. They waited in vain. The waiting list, closed in 2008, remained closed. It was all a rumor. Nearly 250,000 people signed up for a recent lottery-style drawing to get on the list.
The city's $1.6 billion Plan for Transformation began in 1999. The idea was to replace the city's notorious high-rise subsidized housing with apartment units spread throughout the city, which in theory would prevent pockets of poverty from forming. The city tore the high-rises down with the promise that all the units would be replaced by 2009. In 2010, only 35 percent of those units have been replaced.
The latest time line calls for replacing them by 2015 -- if the economy improves.
Rumors that Chicago housing staff members recommend people seeking assistance move to eastern Iowa and Dubuque persist.
A 2008 Drug Enforcement Agency fact sheet states: "Chicago and California are the primary source areas for cocaine coming into eastern Iowa. Most of the crack cocaine in eastern Iowa is sold by African-American traffickers, supplied by street gangs out of Chicago.
... Many Chicago residents have been displaced as a result of low-income housing projects being torn down and have now settled in Iowa. This population shift has provided Chicago-based gang members cover and protection for their gang activities, including the trafficking of controlled substances."
Some people, no matter what, will never get it together. They will wallow in failure and mess up time and time again. For a lot of these people, putting them in a nice place is just creating another place for them to mess up.
I don’t know if you watched the movie “Riding in Cars With Boys,” but the main character is a perfect example of someone who simply doesn’t think before she acts. She gets pregnant by a stoner that her father told her to stay away from, bakes marijuana in her kitchen with her best friend, which results in her getting arrested by her own father, and despite all the help she’s given, she messes up one chance after another.
I mean, she never once at any point just makes the decision to either have the child and put him up for adoption into a nice family, go to California and get an education, or marry the stoner and not make a mess of the rest of her life. She’s so fixated on her ‘dream’ that she ignores her responsibilities.
i.e always be on the lookout for that piece of government cheese.
Certainly they didn’t learn how to read, how to study, how to learn new skills. How to build a resume, how to network.
These folks seem to be able to fill out the necessary paperwork to get public assistance, but they are evidently incapable of getting a marriage license and going through a simple ceremony so their children do not have to suffer from one failed “relationship” after another—while their parents drone on about their increasingly unlikely dreams.
Or abstain, that’s simple enough. I’ve been living in Pontiac, MI for the past two years, (long story) and the first year I managed to participate volunteering at the free health clinic for eight months, then in the summer drum up partnerships. Last year I managed to do more, rebuild my website, get more partnerships and I started self publishing.
Now, I am an American Associate with an international consulting network and finding a place to live now that I have my SSD (earned $770.00 via work credits, worked nearly five years at Meijer and a year at Fashion Bug and then worked a couple months misc. jobs) I’m looking for a better place to live.
I got those partnerships and spot with that firm through networking, taking initiative, and keeping myself together in the face of a hideous amount of obstacles. So spare me the idea that it can’t be done. I accomplished all of it with a $300.00 laptop and LinkedIn.
Community organizers fill out the paperwork for them.
Powdered milk, dry beans, and canned vegetables. THAT'S how you leave public assistance behind.
(Some of the recent stuff - the bar and pawn shop shootings and the naughty assistant principal - have been too visible to ignore.)
The parade of people who go through the two hospitals' emergency rooms would send the little old ladies from Dubuque into gated communities if they knew about them, but the local machine does it's damnedest to keep a lid on things, including telling the local sanctimonious lefty journalists that they will not have access to anyone/anything important if they say too much.
Mr. niteowl77
What is sad is that the impoverished form the democrat base. They are exploited by the politicians for a vote. IF a child is caught spraying graffiti...make the child and the parent clean it up. Instead of providing govt lawncare and groundskeepers paid for by taxpayers...teach the tenents to do it or face consequences.
Teach and expect responsibility for govt provided housing and benefits.
Powdered milk, dry beans, and canned vegetables.
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Now that you mention that, seems someone once told me of welfare way back when that’s about what you’d get
Yep, I used to do deliveries to DBQ back in the early 90’s, seemed like such a nice quiet small town, basicly one main street/business district, and a big open area with a steam near the college, must of went across a bridge there during the trip
There are a lot of those. But there do exist others who simply need help for a while, desperately, who will rise out of their situation at the first opportunity they can get.
If Shannon & Matt actually GOT MARRIED——would they still qualify for Section 8 Housing???
BTW: Section 8 pays up to 80% of the cost of rent. Landlords jack up their rent to the point where the actual rent cost is really paid by Section 8 and IF the other 20% gets paid by the occupant, it is extra money to pay for the increased maintenance from Section 8 Housing recipients. Most of those kinds of units are in deplorable condition all the time from lots of deliberate destruction on the part of the occupants.
Where I used to live, we managed to keep a group of Section 8 units out of the county. When pressed to give the residents in the area the EXACT number of Section 8 recipients currently in the county and how many were on a ‘waiting list’, it finally got exposed that there were very FEW such requirements in our county, and there was NO WAITING LIST. The ‘developer’ wanted serious reductions in cost of permits, taxes, etc, for his ‘dream’.
Therefore, this set of units would be supported by our county, taken care of with OUR Sheriff and judicial system, and the occupants would be drawn from as far as 3 counties away—as much as 100 miles.
After a raucous ‘town hall’ type meeting, we pretty much got his goat and he wouldn’t speak to us any longer. He actually left-—and HE had set up the ‘meet & greet’. We pressed the county commissioners harder, and got it all dropped.
We tried food stamps and WIC for about six months. We got any brand of cheese, real milk, tuna, juice, name brand breakfast cereals, fresh fruits & veggies for WIC, and food stamps could get you anything but rotisserie chickens.
It was good food but it was also embarassing, so we gave it up.
I would love to go through this woman’s fridge and see if I could scare up enough money for her rent.
My own sad story:
In 2000 I was offered a great job in the Bay Area of California. I took the job but found after being in a home for 20 years that I had to live (could only afford in CA) in a condo. The place next-door was a Section 8. My bedroom and the next door bedroom shared the same wall.
What a nightmare for 3 years I had to live with people one wall away who partied from 7PM every night till 4 AM. Needless to say I was a wreck and the cops wouldn’t help although they frequently came to arrest residents on warrants. I would look at their garbage and wonder how can people live on cheap beer and carryout pizza every day but they did. So much waste in their lives and very little actually doing anything — just parties and fun. Kids were involved and it was so sad. I had to move and buy a house I couldn’t afford but that was 2 years and then moved to Texas where I had my own space.
That's an important question. And I suspect the answer might be that they would not because, in reality, only one of them actually holds the lease right now. In the aftermath of the misnamed Great Society, it's obvious that government programs had a perverse effect on the family life of the poor, but any effort to reaffirm the importance of marriage by privileging couples who choose it is actively discouraged by both right and left-wing types today.
You are assuming that the destruction of stable two parent households was an unintended consequence of the Great Society programs.
“But there do exist others who simply need help for a while, desperately, who will rise out of their situation at the first opportunity they can get.”
I’m not talking about those. If I could, I would direct welfare and perks to them by hte fistful.
For many of the people who created the social welfare network, family life was just a confining trap. This was not only because they were ideologically Marxist (as some were) but also because they were caught up in the grand magic of the Sexual Revolution. Why not “liberate” the poor from burdensome family ties, even as these young libertines themselves were becoming liberated?
The results, of course, differ. If you are poor, you live like these slobs in Section 8, making babies you can’t support as you drift from “relationship” to “relationship.” If, on the other hand, you are one of the elites, you get a status job in the Obama White House, hook up with a cute news-chick, and support the kids from all your “relationships” on government cash and connections.
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