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Obama aims to ax moon mission (Killing Cent. Florida economy and American dreams at the same time.)
Orlando Sentinel ^

Posted on 01/28/2010 9:59:38 AM PST by MindBender26

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To: blowfish
1) The space program shouldn’t be a jobs program for Florida.

The same could be said for any other job government is supposed to do, be it defense or infrastructure. Yet the military launches also serve as a bit of a "jobs program" out there as well, but I can't imagine you would argue we should stop that too.

2) Other than a feel-good exercise, there’s little point in spending billions of dollars to send 2-3 people back to the moon to collect more rocks and take photos.

The plan is to stay there this time and do much more important research. The ulterior motive is to maintain our space program's dominence and have the upper hand over China on access to the moon. If helium-3 ever becomes a viable fuel for fusion, we should already have a permanent presence on the moon ready to start exploiting it so that we don't become dependent on anyone else providing it to us, especially China. Furthermore, the moon could act as a viable military strategic location for China if we don't have a presence there ourselves, even if ours is peaceful in nature. I for one do not trust china to abide by the outer space treaty of 1967, at least not secretly.

3) Isn’t this something that should be left to private industry? In all these years, the government hasn’t developed a practical replacement for the space shuttle, what makes us think this will happen now?

No private industry has demonstrated the ability to put men on the moon; neither SpaceX nor Virgin have a booster even close to big enough, nor do they have the experience of building one. What the government space program HAS done so far is to provide a ready-made pad and infrastructure that SpaceX has now acquired for its own private use (SLC 40). That should be a model for the future, which means government should continue to pave the way Lewis and Clark style for private to industry to take over once the path is well-paved and the infrastructure to do it is in place. Otherwise, China is going to beat us to the punch. Their anti-satellite weapons test shows they really have no qualms about weaponizing space either, contrary to what they may outwardly say.
21 posted on 01/28/2010 10:44:19 AM PST by messierhunter
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To: blowfish

Short answer: H3.


22 posted on 01/28/2010 10:45:12 AM PST by Justa
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To: YouPosting2Me
On the anniversary of the Challenger Disaster no less

Don't worry the official budget is scheduled to be released on the anniversary of the Columbia crash. I think that Obama might just be sending a message here. Either that or the last week of January and first week of February are just bad for NASA. IIRC Apollo 1 falls right around now as well.
23 posted on 01/28/2010 10:45:45 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Turbo Pig

Oh my... How I miss President Regan!


24 posted on 01/28/2010 10:48:33 AM PST by folkquest
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To: MindBender26

It is sad to note that by killing off the Space Program, we will lose our ability to send up and maintain the satellites, and all the technological advances that can be applied to the economical growth of the USA.

Remember all that computer industries, miniture electronics, medical advances, car improvements, and all that from the Apollo Programs?

And I was part of all that in the past! Damned shame of the ignorance displayed in Washington, DC.


25 posted on 01/28/2010 10:49:24 AM PST by Sen Jack S. Fogbound
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To: MindBender26

This isn’t just about killing the moon mission. It is about crippling our entire space program, particularly the military side. IOW, it is about crippling America...


26 posted on 01/28/2010 10:59:48 AM PST by piytar (Ammo is hard to find! Bought some lately? Please share where at www.ammo-finder.com)
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound

We also lose the ability to one day put a man on a body beyond earth orbit, which would be extremely important if we ever find an asteroid on a collision course with earth and have enough forewarning to do something about it.


27 posted on 01/28/2010 11:00:34 AM PST by messierhunter
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To: messierhunter

Hey, we all die together. A Marxist dream.


28 posted on 01/28/2010 11:02:05 AM PST by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: bsf2009
Trying to do more in space with less might be a worthy objective for American inventors and investors

The Charles Lindbergh, Cold War mentality should go. Manned missions are pointless.

29 posted on 01/28/2010 11:02:45 AM PST by Brugmansian
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound
“Damned shame of the ignorance displayed in Washington, DC.”

Senator, this is not ignorance, but blatant treason. These bastards must go, NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

30 posted on 01/28/2010 11:06:20 AM PST by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: MindBender26

Don’t worry NASA will have plenty of environmental data collection to do...for the U.N.


31 posted on 01/28/2010 11:27:33 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: gathersnomoss

I have never despised an individual as these loser in chief.

Trashing NASA? How incredibly short sighted. He doesn’t care for science or for the defense of this nation. Private industry won’t be interested in defending this nation. China and India will get up there and start doing things for their nations and we will have a sudden gap in space security just like we did with the Russians.

I sincerely hope that this can be circumvented.

If not the next president will have to make up for the damage to NASA and the military.

Frankly though, I’m all for a meteor smashing into DC or some other liberal bastion and blowing it sky high. It would be ironic justice.


32 posted on 01/28/2010 11:28:23 AM PST by 1scrappymom (Hook Em Horns!!)
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To: MindBender26
Not just Florida. ATK and others ( which helps build the Airies) will have to lay off thousands in Utah....Get the picture??.. Florida, Alabama, Utah. None of these states voted for him.

Remember: EVERYTHING Obama does is centered on punishing his enemies and rewarding his friends. If any of this employed people in Detroit or Chicago he wouldnt be doing it. He is a narcisstic Chicago thug .

33 posted on 01/28/2010 11:55:50 AM PST by Nonstatist
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To: blowfish
Manned space flight is DEAD. Don't tell me commercial companies are going to take up the slack, that is BS. They're not going to the moon, theyre not going to Mars, it's over.

He's going to fund BS weather satellites and crap for little money, and spend 30 billion bailing out student loans (the whole NASA budget is about 17 billion)

NASA makes more sense than anything else the gov't does besides the military and maybe the roads.And cheaply.. What BS

34 posted on 01/28/2010 12:01:14 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: MindBender26

The moon? Been there, done that. Mars, now, that’s the ticket!


35 posted on 01/28/2010 12:25:01 PM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., hot enough down there today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: MindBender26

Obama has officially ended the US manned space program. China and others will be happy to replace us.


36 posted on 01/28/2010 1:40:35 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: MindBender26

Carter and Mondale redux.


37 posted on 01/28/2010 3:17:07 PM PST by Mr Inviso (ACORN=Arrogant Condescending Obama Ruining Nation)
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To: MindBender26
I hate to say this.

The USA is out of money. Beyond out. We have no money. The spaced program is more of a luxury, and one that we can't afford right now.

38 posted on 01/28/2010 5:43:13 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: bsf2009
If these projects and dreams depend on tax money, maybe we’d better rethink it.

Columbus was financed by tax money.

39 posted on 01/29/2010 8:22:27 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Pray for my soul. More things are wrought by prayer Than this world dreams of.-- Idylls of the King)
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