How Dems can prevent a November nightmare: Pass Obamacare (Plouffe-Wash Post)

Washington Post ^ | 1-24-10 | David Plouffe

[screaminsunshine]

Alinsky ..Isolate and attack.

[cripplecreek]

Typical Obama. Say one thing then hire someone to do the exact opposite.

Obama Moves to Centralize Control Over Party Strategy (hires Plouffe)

[mort56]

This is the guy Zero is bring back to straighten things out? Talk about out of it! These guys haven’t a clue!

[screaminsunshine]

What page# is that on in Rules for Radicals we must source it?

[Happyinmygarden]

(P.S.: Health care is a taxpayer-paid-for Government jobs creator.)

[cripplecreek]

See post #42. LOL

[upchuck]

Truly, liberalism is a mental disease.

[webstersII]

“After they create 118 new agencies to run hospitals and medical services, they will all be appointed to jobs they can never lose.”

No agencies will be created if the anti-Obamacare people take over and refuse to fund those agencies.

[bilhosty]

May I suggest athat they try amnsty for illegals. Also make sure everyone understands how the schools are being used by Kevin Jennings to “queer them.” Go ahead and try. you just try.

[Ditter]

Laughing out loud here while trying to say what I am thinking the pronunciation of Plouffe sounds like. No crude comments on FR or I’ll be kicked off. tee hee

[Happyinmygarden]

But once passed, gubmint programs are very hard to get rid of

You are absolutely correct.

I predict that one of their unstated plans is to just get this monstosity passed and then a constant "amendments to" routine will begin that will never end. There will be literally thousands of "exceptions" and "exemptions" for Congress members' constituents.

There will be countless, "This section applies to everyone, with the exception of one-legged, brown-eyed timber industry workers who are located in states with territory north of the whatever parallel..." and so on.

[Happyinmygarden]

Hey Plouffe, Sarah Palin is just a little ole unemployed gal from Alaska

LOL

Always reminds me of that scene in Rocky I where the champ is ignoring the pics of Rocky on TV and one of the champ's handlers says, "Uh, I think you better take a look at this"

[TexasCajun]

Robert Gibbs pretty much said so this morning on FOX News, repeating Howard Dean's comments to Chris Matthews; "MA voters elected Scott Brown to show their support for Obamah-Care and Obamah himself."

[Piers-the-Ploughman]

I wonder if it passes would the SCOTUS declare it unconstitiutional? A week ago that would have seemed unlikely but they actually kicked parts of McCain-Feingold to the curb, a major rebuke

[Jim Noble]

No agencies will be created if the anti-Obamacare people take over and refuse to fund those agencies.

How many agencies did the GOP de-fund or eliminate between 1995-2007?

How many did they create?

[Richard Kimball]

In all fairness, before the Brown election, I heard a lot of hard lefters sounding a lot like a lot of conservatives talking about Bush. They were saying, "WAIT A MINUTE! We didn't vote for this!" They voted for unicorns, candy and freebies for everybody and got Chicago politics, bribes, and an embarrassing amount of corruption.

Of course, the leftists don't understand economics at all, so the plan they support is doomed to inefficiency, waste and failure. The problem for Zero, though, is that he is starting to lose his base. With Bush, he lost a lot of his base, and that's why his ratings plummeted. In Massachusetts, Zero lost the gays, the unions (how can you lose the unions when they were the one group that got more swag than anyone else?) and the people who demanded the "universal option" in health care.

The universal option, of course, would have been the money pit.

[depressed in 06]

Lies to be effective have to be believable.

[Huck]

Does the Democrat Congress want to commit political suicide (don’t have a job in 2010) to pass this Marxist agenda. I think some will be willing but there is no way they get everyone on board for this one after the massacre in Massachusetts.

What have they got to lose? They already are going to pay for pushing health care. Might as well pass something. All they have to do is look at US history to know that once they get their toe in the door, it's a matter of time before they can walk on through.

[SonOfDarkSkies]

What happened in MA was a death sentence to Obama and his agenda.

Naturally, the first reaction to such a sentence is "denial" (which is delusion) and that is exactly what we are seeing.

This brings to mind Chris Matthews interview last week with Howard Dean in which Dean insisted the public wanted more leftward movement not less.

When Matthews (in his only decent interview of recent times) disagreed with Dean and told Dean he was "whistling past the graveyard," Dean responded by telling Matthews he was a "crazy person."

BTW, the next stage after "denial" is "anger" and later "depression."

An angry response by Obama will serve only to seal his fate.

[BWDog]

It’s amazing how much babbling still comes from proponents about what a great thing this is budget-wise. Massaging the figures by collecting taxes/fees for 10 years and paying out benefits for 6?! Usually goofy apple to orange comparisons are a little tougher to spot. And then there’s the Massachusetts universal health insurance “test run.” Forecasts and reality aren’t matching up. Color me surprised...

Don’t remember what year it was (probably in the late 90s), but I think the Medicare budget was $90 billion or so in a year that, when Medicare was passed, was only projected to be $9 billion or so.

Considering how bad the numbers look before the thing even gets passed and then looking at track records...