Posted on 01/22/2010 6:50:31 AM PST by My Favorite Headache
Funny, no one has applied the same scrutiny to what Danny Glover has said about Haiti.
Pat has a tendency to talk first and think about it later. His manner of presentation can sometimes leave a bit to be desired. But there’s no denying that the Bible relates a number of examples of how God allows punishments and catastrophes in response to people’s disobedience. Beyond Haiti, it’s also something for Americans to ponder.
This author thinks he has the unique ability (usually reserved for only God) to discern that homosexuality and abortion are not near as bad as homelessness, poverty, etc.
"And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth. And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?
Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him." John 9:1-3
Sometimes God punishes people for their sin, sometimes He spares people, but all He is for His own glory. So how do we glorify God? By loving Him and doing what He commands. For Haiti, it is not kicking them while down, it is helping them in their time of need and spreading the Gospel.
Blah Blah Blah thank god for “respectable conservatives” to spout the obvious and acceptable. How about our immigration policies which take every Haitian with any ability whatsoever and lets him/her leave the island in the hands of the Big Compassion and Big Welfare rackets.
Unfortunate as it was what happened in Haiti, I recall that the God of the Bible is not always about blessings.
If only good things happen then there would be no need for God to have said (and I am paraphrasing)
Choose this and receive blessings.
Choose this and receive cursing.
Anything a Christians says that the media jumps on (attacks) most likely has a lot of true in it.
That's because Glover's remark is simply stupid beyond stupid and totally unanchored in reality.
Robertson's remark is stupid in a more interesting way: he is taking the easy way out on the problem of theodicy. Remember that the Lisbon earthquake figured prominently in Voltaire's attacks on Christianity and Leibniz. In, perhaps trying to fight his own unbelief, Robertson ends up not even like the uncomprehending disciples in John's Gospel asking about whose sin was the cause of the man being born blind, but like the Pharisees who denounce him after the blind man's healing, "you were born in utter sin and would you teach us?.
Oh crimeny! I cannot abide such ‘proclamations’. You’re telling me those Haitians are praying to the devil to fix this present situation?
I can’t buy any of this and it is simple minded to blame this earthquake on a pact with the devil!
It appeared to me that there were plenty of churches and missionaries prior to the quake. Their social and economic problems is a result of years of corruption in government.
Thank you for your insight and wisdom.
One fact remains clear about Haiti. It never ended slavery. That evil was simply transposed from the French to indiginous tyrants. Haiti has never thrown off the shackles of slavery.
There was a brief time, following Baby Doc, when democracy seemed to be emerging. Then Aristide was elected and the tyranny of fascism gained control again. Even after he was deposed by popular will of the people it was our own government that returned the evil Marxist to power and destroyed a burgeoning light industry sector supporting 90% of the population.
The US has been complicit in the perpetuation of slavery in Haiti. Under our current leadership the enslavement of the people of Haiti will continue.
What a stupid remark! What a jackass!
Although his remarks were beyond stupid I doubt we will ever see the Liberal establishment eat one of their own...especially a mouthpiece like Glover.
>> “And they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said, ‘We will serve you if you will get us free from the French.’ True story. And so, the devil said, ‘OK, it’s a deal.’”
What a stupid remark! What a jackass! <<
Also you cannot hold someone culpable for the sins of their father or grand gather or however many great grandfathers it was ago....
That is like saying, “You great great great grandfather killed three people so now you go to jail” It is reparations “like” talk in blaming the ancestors.
If you want to say the Bible is false, then say it. But the Bible says this:
” You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.”
Take it or leave it, but the Bible is not a cafeteria plan. Sorry.
Jesus came that we would have life and that life more abundantly.
Spoke with our Haitian co-workers (from when we lived and worked there) and they confirmed that the 1791 Bois Caiman ceremony is well know in Haitian history to Haitians.
Think about this for a minute...up until sometine after 5PM last Tuesday, January 12, the Leftist elites, intelligensia and artist communities of the Western World were full supporters and promoters of Haitian VooDoo (substitute any spelling you want to use here) celebrating the "wonderful" ways that a people group could throw-off the "shackles of the white man's religion" and develop a "beautiful folk religion of their own".
Flash Forward to minutes after Robertson's comments and suddenly this same group of Leftists who virilently despise anything Biblical and the very mention of The Name of Jesus in public discourse become the defenders of Christianity!?
Really...?!
If you want to say the Bible is false, then say it. But the Bible says this:
>> ” You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.”
Take it or leave it, but the Bible is not a cafeteria plan. Sorry. <<
So you blame people for the sins of their ancestors, how big of you. I thought children were innocent well of every sin except the “original sin”. So punishing the children because their parents were sinners makes you sound like a big jerk. Of course that is EXODUS, a book of the old testament, I though Christ died FOR EVERYONE’S SINS in the NEW TESTAMENT and that includes washing away the sins of the parental units and generational sins as well.
So I guess children bore to sinners go directly to Hell and do not pass purgatory on their way down?????
You might as well advocate the abortion of children being bore by sinners in your sick twisted logic.
Stewart is either patronizing or ignorant. At the risk of stating the obvious, I suspect a little of both.
God's presence is often accompanied by an earthquake. There was one on the mountain when He gave the 10 commandments to Moses. Isaiah says His judgment will be accompanied by an earthquake. The Hallel Psalms sing about the earth jumping around like rams and lambs. There was an earthquake when Jesus died on the Cross and when the angel showed up to roll back the tomb. There was one when Paul and Silas were singing God's praises in the prison in Phillipi. There will be earthquakes in the end times as predicted by Jesus and by the Revelation to John.
The earthquake at the Crucifixion liberated dead saints from their tombs and convinced the Roman centurion that He was the Christ.
The earthquake at Jesus' tomb liberated His physical body and convinced the doubting disciples (all but one) that He was the Christ.
The earthquake in Phillipi liberated those captives and convinced the Roman jailer that Jesus was the Christ.
Anyone who does not believe that the same God who sent ten plagues to liberate the Israelites from Egypt would use an earthquake to liberate Haitians held captive by a curse invoked by their fathers simply does not read or does not believe their Bible.
"When an unclean spirit comes out of a man, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. Then it says, 'I will return to the house I left.' When it arrives, it finds the house unoccupied, swept clean and put in order. Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that man is worse than the first. That is how it will be with this wicked generation."
Mt 12:42-46.
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