Scott Brown On The Issues (The Candidate's Stands)

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[goldstategop]

He's opposed to cap and trade. I'm in favor of a clean environment. The difference is I don't think jobs and people's standard of living need to be sacrificed to be preserve it. So call me a self-hating Republican because I want to wean America of its unhealthy addiction to imported oil.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

[ThomasSawyer]

Some seeds of doubt being sown just before the election. How convenient for the Democrats.

[Wissa]

He's opposed to cap and trade. I'm in favor of a clean environment. The difference is I don't think jobs and people's standard of living need to be sacrificed to be preserve it. So call me a self-hating Republican because I want to wean America of its unhealthy addiction to imported oil.

Brown says he's in favor of common sense solutions. To me, common sense dictates not making meaningless expensive gestures that actually make a problem worse instead of better (ethanol, wind, solar, or anything Al Gore would make money exploiting). Common sense dictates increasing our energy supply with lower-cost solutions that can also reduce pollution ( focus on nuclear), and increasing our supply of oil in a way that isn't unacceptably risky to the environment. Drill ANWR, drill offshore, drill onshore, tap as much natural gas as we can. There's minimal risk of environmental damage with all those.

I really have no idea how he'd vote on environmental issues. I can't tell from the position statement he has.

[Carry_Okie]

No I haven't.

Yes, you have, and you've just proven it. You think "preserving nature" is benign. It is not. We took over a human-managed landscape and have neglected it to its peril.

I'm just smart enough to know that a politician telling people he's pro-environment is proving he's not an idiot.

Yes he is, and so are you, because it is the MEANS of managing the land upon which we differ. He chose language the treats land as a commons and you bought it. That's COMMUNIST in case you didn't know. It's also immensely destructive to wild-land habitat in ways of which our urban culture is generally not aware. It is a Republican opportunity to fix that, unfortunately, the RINOs are part of the problem.

You see, conservatives have an opportunity to take on the environmental left and show it for the corrupt corporate racket that it is, but conservatives generally are too ignorant upon technical bases to do so.

[Carry_Okie]

Some seeds of doubt being sown just before the election. How convenient for the Democrats.

I'm not going to Hegel with you. See tag line.

[Wissa]

Instead of just being critical, how about trying to improve his statement instead. Let’s say that YOU were given the assignment of coming up with the four or five sentence Energy and Environment policy statement for the Republican candidate running for senator in one of the bluest of blue states. The Democrats are doing everything they can to bring this country to a point that it will never recover and you know that the outcome of the election will determine whether or not the Democrats keep their filibuster-proof majority. How would you word the short Energy and Environment policy statement?

[patriot08]

HELP SCOTT DEFEAT THE OBAMA SOCK PUPPET!!

(stole this from another FReeper, but bears repeating)

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[Carry_Okie]

Instead of just being critical, how about trying to improve his statement instead.

I've been doing that for years. They don't listen.

Let’s say that YOU were given the assignment of coming up with the four or five sentence Energy and Environment policy statement for the Republican candidate running for senator in one of the bluest of blue states.

I've offered several local politicians that very option. Their campaign advisers run from the opportunity and they seldom want to adsorb the background information by which to become conversant. Meanwhile, their donors are gaming the system the same way the Democrats are. You are talking as if I, living in Santa Cruz County, California, am not aware of such considerations.

How would you word the short Energy and Environment policy statement?

Look at the tag line carefully and then go back and re-read what I posted to you:

1. The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.
2. We took over a human managed landscape.
3. Neglect is not benign.
4. Management demands are so varied, complex, and detailed that a remote and corruptable government bureaucracy cannot do a good job.
5. This calls for a model of private landowners managing wildland habitat.

You go on from there.

[Wissa]

Considering what you choose for a tagline and your comments, I'd bet that you've spent more time considering the issue than I or most other people are ever going to do.

As I read your points though, I get the impression that you'd rely almost completely on all individuals being "good neighbors", even though you acknowledge that there are plenty of people out there that will try to get away with all that they can. Whether that defines your position or not, its just as much open to people viewing it as advocacy of a "free for all" as your keying off a couple of words that most people would find benign and using them for an opportunity to shriek "Communist!".

The more that the collectivist mindset has been ingrained into the population of a state, the less they'd be inclined to jump on a "free for all" bandwagon. I don't think Mass. would be the place to spearhead that kind of movement.

Personally, I see some value in having a government that will set some limits on people's activities and use of their private property somewhere short of where their fist meets my nose. I happen to have a house on a lake, and after I moved in my neighbor became one of those people they show on those TV shows about hoarders. Its not limited to the inside their cabin though. They've got five snowblowers, two campers, three trailers, seven lawnmowers (most on their backs and sides), seven snowmobiles in various states of disrepair, three boats and a pontoon, an unlicensed pickup with the back full of garbage bags for the past couple years, and a whole bunch of other stuff on their lot. Enough to kill off almost every blade of grass on what used to be their lawn and currently cover 90 percent of their 50 x 300 foot lot. It would be bad enough if the stuff was in good condition, but with very few exceptions its all junk by anybody's definition. A lot of it is dismantled to parts left laying around. They burn garbage (anything and everything) in their firepit. Smoky fires that smell up the whole neighborhood. They've set out twenty bags of garbage on their front lawn and then left them there when they went back to their home in the city for the next two months. You can imagine what the mess was like after the neighborhood dogs tore onto the garbage. They've left for a month after hanging bags of urine on their clothesline to try to attract the flies. (Probably trying to lure the flies out of their cabin.) There's been a couple of times they've rented a portapotty for a couple of months that they've set up right on my property line. They'll chain up their dog outside (the one with a bark like scratching a chalkboard, but LOUD) and then head out to town or out fishing. The dog will bark continuously for several hours until they come back from wherever they went.

My house is on a 100 foot wide lot next to theirs, so no matter what they do, I can't really escape the effect they have on my enjoyment of my own property. They've probably brought down the resale value of my house by close to fifty percent so I'm not in a position to escape them by moving either without a huge financial loss.

The county and township governments take the approach that its a lot easier ignoring the complaints of the people in the neighborhood than to get the junky people to come into reasonable compliance with the zoning ordinance. If the government ignores the complaints long enough, eventually people give up and stop complaining.

I'm still a big believer in private property rights, but I've become a lot less of a purist over the past several years of living with this situation. I'd expect that's probably shaded my views overall about whether I could accept or even actually encourage a government setting and then applying some limits on use of a property when the effects of that use can't be contained to that property.

I guess to some people, that makes me a communist.

[gemoftheocean]

Wissa, what you describe is a FIRE HAZARD, first class. Get the fire marshal involved!! Pronto.

[Wissa]

Wissa, what you describe is a FIRE HAZARD, first class. Get the fire marshal involved!! Pronto.

The government at all levels is well aware of the property and chooses not to do anything about it. To be honest though, I'd love it if that placed burned down. Its an unbuildable lot, so if fire would destroy their cabin they couldn't rebuild. I really wouldn't mind much if the fire took my place with it so I could put up a new house with the insurance proceeds.

I get hopeful whenever there's a tornado warning for my area. :)

[HiTech RedNeck]

Who woulda thunk it. A minnesota red neck.

[Carry_Okie]

As I read your points though, I get the impression that you'd rely almost completely on all individuals being "good neighbors", even though you acknowledge that there are plenty of people out there that will try to get away with all that they can.

Not a bit. I fully expect a system of contracts, likely automated, with third party verification and an interlocking system of insurance priced by behavior and accounted risks.

It's a 21st Century idea because it will demand an amazing array of communications, sensors, and software to automate, absolutely appealing to a technology based state such as Massachusetts.

Your response points exactly to how effective my collection of "sound bytes" is toward evoking skeptical questions. The answers require a considerable degree of facility in a candidate to communicate such ideas effectively. It's doable, but it takes educating that candidate.

So if what you want is a schematically simple idea, police power, with corrupt officials enforcing thousand page rule books incapable of addressing variable conditions the real world presents, then by all means stay with your collectivist ideal. If what you want is to win elections on the power of free enterprise to create wealth solving real problems (most of which were created with government complicity), then consider the alternatives.