North American Muslims issue fatwa

http://www.islamicsupremecouncil.com/iscc-fatwa-against%20terrorism.htm ^ | January 8, 2010 | Islamic Supreme Council of Canada

[Moose4]

It’s a nice statement, but I wonder if anyone will listen. Islam is decentralized—this fatwa may not, and probably will not, carry any weight at all with those who would actually want to blow up airplanes. It’s a good PR move, and for all I know, these imams may be sincere. But unless Muslims in the West stop preaching Islamic Wahabbi extremism, start doing something about these extremist mosques, and dropping a dime on their own terrorists when they find out about them? These are but empty words, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

}:-)4

[RaceBannon]

not a damn word on these terrorist atttacks being against citizens, just against Muslims!

[RaceBannon]

then take a look again: Are they calling for defending their country? Or MUSLIMS in their country?

I didnt read this as Muslims who happen to live in Canada or US calling for the defense of their nation against attacks, this was CLEARLY MUSLIMS calling for defending MUSLIMS against OTHER MUSLIMS

NOT ONE WORD about patriotism of country, the death of innocents regardless of religion, regardless of national origin

IT WAS ALL ABOUT PROTECTING MUSLIMS!

[SlowBoat407]

Thanks, Cindy. My first thought - this is a step toward laying claim to North America as Islamic land. They will claim to have defended us, and will offer us further protection. I can even see The Obama getting in the act by welcoming the fatwa and offering to work more closely with muslims in an effort to prevent further attacks.

Think Chicago.

“Nice country you have here. It’d be a shame if anything were to happen to it.”

[RaceBannon]

re-read this!

They are NOT calling for EVERYONE to be safe, ONLY MUSLIMS!!

[Jeff Head]

"It is an obligation upon us (Imams) to inform all Muslims around the world that Muslims in Canada and the United States have complete freedom to practice Islam. There is no single city in Canada and the United States where MASAJIDS (Mosques) are not built. In all major cities Islamic schools provide education to Muslim children about Qur’an and the Islamic traditions. Thousands of Muslims perform Hajj every year and travel to Saudi Arabia with complete freedom and respect. In the month of Ramadan, both Canadian and the United States governments recognize the occasion and greet all Muslim citizens. Muslims pray five daily prayers in mosques without any fear or restrictions. Muslims have complete freedom to pay Zakat (poor due) to the charity or a person of their choice. Muslims have complete freedom to celebrate their festivals openly, publicly and Islamically. Muslims enjoy freedom of religion just like Christians, Jews and others. No one stops us from obeying Allah and His Messenger (Peace be upon him). No one stops us from preaching Islam and practicing Islam. In many cases, Muslims have more freedom to practice Islam here in Canada and the United States than many Muslim countries.

"In fact, the constitutions of the United States and Canada are very close to the Islamic guiding principles of human rights and freedom. There is no conflict between the Islamic values of freedom and justice and the Canadian /US values of freedom and justice.

"Therefore, any attack on Canada and the United States is an attack on the freedom of Canadian and American Muslims. Any attack on Canada and the United States is an attack on thousands of mosques across North America. It is a duty of every Canadian and American Muslim to safeguard Canada and the USA. They must expose any person, Muslim OR non-Muslim, who would cause harm to fellow Canadians OR Americans. We, Canadian and American Muslims, must condemn and stand up against these attacks on Canada and the United States."

Long past due...but well said nonetheless.

May they actually take action, and pro-actively identify and turn into authorities the Jihadists in their ranks and cull from their ranks any who would threaten the freedom they speak of, either for them, or any of us.

When we see that occurring all over the United States and Canada, despite the risks to themselves, thereby showing us all that (as for us) their liberty is worth any such risk, we will know that these words have meaning for those who wrote them, and for those they wrote them to.

SUDDEN JIHAD SYNDROME IN AMERICA - WE IGNORE IT AT OUR PERIL

SIX CRITICAL REASONS TO NOT TRY TERRORISTS IN US COURT

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S UPBRINGING

THE MAN WHO DESPISES AMERICA

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AWAKEN AMERICA, YOUR LIBERTY IS CALLING (Inspiring Video)

WHY AMERICA HAS PROPOSERED AND IS FREE

AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY

[Molon Labbie]

We must not fall for this “Islamoflauge” or to butcher the Russian word a little, “Mosque-irovka”.

If I were in a region that I secretly wanted to subvert and eventually dominate, but had not yet gathered the strength and influence, and allies of mine were beset on pushing forward and perhaps destroying my work, I would use a campaign of disinformation to forestall those allies. I believe this is what we are seeing. These imams know that North America is “but on a razors edge” and a one devastating incident could trigger an avalanche of retribution.

I don’t remember loud fatwas issued condemning 9/11, I remember news footage of muslims dancing in the streets of middle eastern nations, celebrating deaths of Americans.

I don’t remember angry groups of muslim males outside their mosques demanding death to those who attacked their adopted countries.

I don’t remember seeing muslim men lined up outside of recruiting offices looking to do their duty for their country.

Folks, we have to admit that we are not privy to what is being discussed during and after men’s prayers in the mosques. I would bet a hot topic right now is how fighting mad America, and perhaps the rest of the West is becoming.

[Paige]

There are 10 million Muslims in North America according to this proclamation. Many clerics want to place their people throughout the USA, build Mosques, take over the area they are in with a massive voting block to elect the leaders they want...Look at MN, Michigan, and Northern VA how the Muslim population is exploding in those areas. They have ‘large’ families and bring their family members in once they are settled.

Anyone remember “the Trojan Horse”? Think about this and look around the country at the Mosques being built. There is a Mosque being built by “GROUND ZERO”. These clerics work with or are part of CAIR and they are getting everything in place in order to build their voting base throughout the country.

The timing on this is interesting because there is not any doubt that these clerics know that several Senators are suggesting people on the Terrorist Watch list and the No Fly List have their VISAS revoked and sent back to their homeland. These Clerics do not want this to take place for two reasons. They would lose people they have in place here in the USA and this would also allow profiling of Muslims on a much larger scale.

[servantboy777]

The Koran allows for Muslims to lie or deceive infidels to achieve a greater goal for Islam.

http://www.islamreview.com/articles/lyingprint.htm

[servantboy777]

http://www.bibleprobe.com/muhammad.htm

Pretty comprehensive study of Islam from a Christian perspective.

[Recovering Ex-hippie]

there were demonstrations against the underwear bomber by Muslims in NYC...small group but rather vocal, One guy, welldressed Muslim was very vocal , pointing to his forehead “If you want to attack and kill me for denouncing Jhidasits violence, here i am, here is your target!”

there are so few ( compared to the world’s millions) non radical Muslims.

[Josephat]

They probably realize that Obama will fall for it.

Obama probaly put them up to it. The next step is for some mosque to turn over some would-be terrorist with the assurance that Holder’s justice department will turn them loose after spending millions of our tax dollars to bring them through our courts.

[PIF]

Some one said, “As long as this book (the koran) exists, there will be no peace in the world.”

[Marty62]

When they tell their followers that Taqiyya and Kitman are forbidden then I might believe them.
.................

“Like many Islamic concepts taqiyya and kitman were formed within the context of the Arab-Islamic matrix of tribalism, expansionary warfare and conflict. Taqiyya has been used by Muslims since the 7th century to confuse and split ‘the enemy’. A favored tactic was ‘deceptive triangulation’; to persuade the enemy that jihad was not aimed at them but at another enemy. Another tactic was to deny that there was jihad at all. The fate for such faulty assessments by the target was death.”

http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/25320

[PIF]

“Yes it’s obviously Taqiyya.”

And the first clue should be the reference to 10 million Muslims ... there are less than 1 million if you count South America. (5 million if you believe in wikipedia as a valid reference).

http://www.islamicpopulation.com/world_general.html

Any Muslim will pick up on this point and know that the ‘fatwa’ is totally bogus. Only the media will believe it is real.

Further, at which point in the ‘fatwa’ does it say believing Muslims should loudly denounce and turn in the ‘jihadis‘? It only says ‘expose‘ - to whom?

[metmom]

We, the undersigned Imams, are issuing the following Fatwa in order to guide the Muslims of North America regarding the attacks on Canada and the United States by the terrorists and the extremists. In our view, these attacks are evil and Islam requires from Muslims to stand up against this evil. In the holy Qur’an Almighty Allah orders Muslims,

I wonder what's up with that; what the ulterior motive is.

I can't help but be suspicious. I wonder why.....

[metmom]

I noticed that they weren’t concerned about attacks on non-Muslims and they aren’t condemning that aspect of terrorism.

What’s alarming is that they are so concerned that the attacks may harm muslims. Are there that many of them who have infiltrated us so far that it’s become a legitimate concern to them that some muslims might be collateral damage in the event of a terrorist attack?

[metmom]

Self defense from the fallout What would you do if you lived among them, and your country was about to attack?

You mean to *be attacked*?

It could be they slipped and inadvertently let us know that an attack is imminent. They knew something we didn't and issued this warning to their compatriots to try to get them to back off.

Interesting. Note to self: Buy more ammo and check food supplies.....

[metmom]

TAQIYAH???

[Shannon]

Yes, I have a thought. I don’t believe it for a minute. Maybe their fatwa is really code for encouraging more attacks.