Posted on 01/03/2010 12:17:09 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
Cookies and milk, followed by a tuck-in and a bedtime story ???
So are Brennan & crew belatedly realising it was utterly stupid to charge him so quickly ?
Used to be, we’d waterboard the info out of them. Now we just make deals. So much for not negotiating with terrorists.
Betcha some jihadists and would-be jihadists are wondering right now whether they’re offering anything worthwhile. Certainly it should cushion the blow should they flub their detonation.
He can never do that. Ever. No matter how slight the possibility 0bowdown can't risk having it become known that any jihadi has even been made to feel uncomfortable on his watch. He boxed himself in so tight, politically, that even if cities were disappearing one after the other in mushroom clouds he would be finished if it came to light that an "isolated extremist" was so much as slapped.
Like Panetta, Dennis Blair is also seen as a Clinton man. Will the failed Christmas Day attack give the administration the cover to replace Panetta and Blair?
From TIME magazineWith Dennis Blair, Don't Expect Smarter Intelligence, dated Saturday, Dec. 20, 2008.
You have nothing whatsoever to fear from Sikhs. They hate Muslims more than you could imagine. If Sikhs were in charge of the world’s security there would be no Muslims.
I had heard that, but feared it was maybe a cover. Especially when he sat down across the aisle and one back from the Muslim lady.
A Sikh is likely to rip the head off a muslim terrorist and spit down the hole faster than you are.
And an elegantly dressed, somewhat imperious woman is highly unlikely to be suicidal. She may be militant, but she won’t be suicidin’ anytime soon, that’s for lesser folks to do.
You need to practice your profiling skills.
For crying out loud, water board him and get the info for free, and then execute him.
Obama Advisor on MTP Talking about “Plea Agreements” with terrorists
http://hotairpundit.blogspot.com/2010/01/obama-advisor-on-undie-bomber-plea.html
This is hard to believe
This may have been posted elsewhere. Don’t know, so I am posting it here.
I just saw this on CNN. Mr. Scheuer just tied past and present together in a way none of us could imagine. They are talking about the CIA deaths in Afghaistan:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1001/03/sotu.04.html
BORGER: How does this affect both morale and strategy as the agency expands its role?
SCHEUER: Well, I think it hurts morale to a certain extent, naturally, because of the deaths, but it hurts morale even more because one of the officers who got killed had arranged an operation in 1998 that would have killed or captured Osama bin Laden. And Mr. Brennan was instrumental in preventing that operation from occurring. Instead he said the Americans should trust the Saudis to take care of bin Laden.
So it’s a painful— it’s a painful death, but more importantly it’s a death that didn’t need to occur had Mr. Clinton — Mr. Brennan, George Tenet, and Mr. Berger had the courage to try to defend Americans.
BORGER: Now I wish all of those gentlemen were here today to defend themselves.
SCHEUER: I wish they were too. And I would be delighted anytime to talk with them in public on any — in any forum, ma’am.
BORGER: Well, hopefully we can arrange that one day. Because I’m sure they’ll want to answer your charge.
SCHEUER: I would be delighted. I’m sure they would.
BORGER: But thank you very much for being with us here today, Mr. Scheuer.
SCHEUER: My pleasure, ma’am.
” .........one of the officers who got killed had arranged an operation in 1998 that would have killed or captured Osama bin Laden. And Mr. Brennan was instrumental in preventing that operation from occurring. Instead he said the Americans should trust the Saudis to take care of bin Laden. ........”
Thank you ... I’ve never had reason to doubt
the words of Michael Scheuer ...
So Brennan was in that filth with Clinton and Berger.
SOB weasels ... may they all burn painfully in hell
.. all who facilitated and ARE STILL facilitating
the needless deaths of our brave troops, who follow
the orders of the evil monsters IN our govt.
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Well, look now to what the 9/11 report has to say about the man to whom President Clinton, under attack by an independent counsel, delegated so much in respect of national security, Samuel “Sandy”Berger. The report cites a 1998 meeting between Mr. Berger and the director of central intelligence, George Tenet, at which Mr. Tenet presented a plan to capture Osama bin Laden.
“In his meeting with Tenet, Berger focused most, however, on the question of what was to be done with Bin Ladin if he were actually captured. He worried that the hard evidence against Bin Ladin was still skimpy and that there was a danger of snatching him and bringing him to the United States only to see him acquitted,” the report says, citing a May 1, 1998, Central Intelligence Agency memo summarizing the weekly meeting between Messrs. Berger and Tenet.
In June of 1999, another plan for action against Mr. bin Laden was on the table. The potential target was a Qaeda terrorist camp in Afghanistan known as Tarnak Farms. The commission report released yesterday cites Mr.Berger ’s “handwritten notes on the meeting paper” referring to “the presence of 7 to 11 families in the Tarnak Farms facility, which could mean 60-65 casualties.”According to theBerger notes, “if he responds, we’re blamed.”
On December 4, 1999, the National Security Council’s counterterrorism coordinator, Richard Clarke, sent Mr. Berger a memo suggesting a strike in the last week of 1999 against Al Qaeda camps in Afghanistan. Reports the commission: “In the margin next to Clarke’s suggestion to attack Al Qaeda facilities in the week before January 1, 2000,Berger wrote, ‘no.’ ”
In August of 2000, Mr. Berger was presented with another possible plan for attacking Mr. bin Laden.This time, the plan would be based on aerial surveillance from a “Predator” drone. Reports the commission: “In the memo’s margin,Berger wrote that before considering action, ‘I will want more than verified location: we will need, at least, data on pattern of movements to provide some assurance he will remain in place.’ ”
In other words, according to the commission report, Mr. Berger was presented with plans to take action against the threat of Al Qaeda four separate times — Spring 1998, June 1999, December 1999, and August 2000. Each time, Mr.Berger was an obstacle to action.
Had he been a little less reluctant to act, a little more open to taking pre-emptive action, maybe the 2,973 killed in the September 11, 2001, attacks would be alive today.
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/11825_Berger_Nixed_Attacks_on_Bin_Laden
I’d PAY to see any of them debate Scheuer, but we know
they’re gutless.
Oh, THANK YOU FOR POSTING THE TRANSCRIPT!
I TIVO’d Scheuer’s entire “Last Word.”
Great! Talk to his lawyer - and don’t forget to throw in some nice incentives. What a crock!! If they placed him under military control (ie. illegal combatant), he would have already talked or he would have said exactly what he is saying now... At least we would have had a chance without his lawyer. Stupid government!
1997-May 29, 1998: US Creates Plan to Capture Bin Laden, but CIA Director Tenet Cancels It
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Imagery of bin Laden’s Tarnak Farms compound prepared for the aborted operation.Imagery of bin Laden’s Tarnak Farms compound prepared for the aborted operation. [Source: CBC]In 1997 and early 1998, the US develops a plan to capture Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan.
A CIA-owned aircraft is stationed in a nearby country, ready to land on a remote landing strip long enough to pick him up. However, problems with having to hold bin Laden too long in Afghanistan make the operation unlikely.
The plan morphs into using a team of Afghan informants to kidnap bin Laden from inside his heavily defended Tarnak Farm complex. Michael Scheuer, head of the CIA’s bin Laden unit, calls the plan “the perfect operation.” Gary Schroen, the lead CIA officer in the field, agrees, and gives it about a 40 percent chance of succeeding.
[Clarke, 2004, pp. 220-221; Washington Post, 2/22/2004; Vanity Fair, 11/2004] The Pentagon also reviews the plan, finding it well crafted. In addition, there is “plausible denialability,” as the US could easily distance itself from the raid. Scheuer will comment, “It was the perfect capture operation becauase even if it went completely wrong and people got killed, there was no evidence of a US hand.” [Shenon, 2008, pp. 192]
However, higher-ups at the CIA are skeptical of the plan and worry that innocent civilians might die. The plan is given to CIA Director George Tenet for approval, but he rejects it without showing it to President Clinton. He considers it unlikely to succeed and decides the Afghan allies are too unreliable.
[Clarke, 2004, pp. 220-221; Washington Post, 2/22/2004; Vanity Fair, 11/2004] Additionally, earlier in May 1998, the Saudis promised to try to bribe the Taliban and try bin Laden themselves, and apparently Tenet preferred this plan (see May 1998).
Scheuer is furious. After 9/11 he will complain, “We had more intelligence against this man and organization than we ever had on any other group we ever called a terrorist group, and definitive and widely varied [intelligence] across all the ends, and I could not understand why they didn’t take the chance.”
[Vanity Fair, 11/2004] There will be later speculation that the airstrip used for these purposes is occupied and will be used as a base of operations early in the post-9/11 Afghan war. [Washington Post, 12/19/2001]
Entity Tags: George J. Tenet, Central Intelligence Agency, William Jefferson (“Bill”) Clinton, Michael Scheuer, Osama bin Laden, Alec Station
Category Tags: Hunt for Bin Laden
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April 5, 1997: US Again Not Interested in Sudan’s Al-Qaeda
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Mansoor Ijaz.Mansoor Ijaz
The Sudanese government, frustrated in previous efforts to be removed from a US list of terrorism sponsors, tries a back channel approach using Mansoor Ijaz, a multimillionaire Pakistani-American businessman.
Ijaz is personally acquainted with President Clinton, National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, and other high-level US officials. With help from Ijaz (who is also hoping to invest in Sudan), on April 5, 1997, Sudan President Omar al-Bashir writes a letter to Lee Hamilton, the ranking Democrat on the House Foreign Affairs Committee.
It states, “We extend an offer to the FBI’s Counterterrorism units and any other official delegations which your government may deem appropriate, to come to the Sudan and work with [us] in order to assess the data in our possession and help us counter the forces your government, and ours, seek to contain.”
This is a reference to Sudan’s extensive files on al-Qaeda gathered during the years bin Laden lived there, which the Sudanese had offered the US before (see March 8, 1996-April 1996). Sudan allows Ijaz to see some of these files. Ijaz discusses the letter with Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, Berger, and other prominent US officials, but to no success.
No US official sends any reply back to Sudan. Tim Carney, US ambassador to Sudan, will complain,
“It was an offer US officials did not take seriously.”
ABC News will report in 2002 that the 9/11 Congressional Inquiry plans to investigate Sudan’s offer. Sen. Bob Graham (D), co-chairman of the inquiry, will ask, “Why wouldn’t we be accepting intelligence from the Sudanese?” But the inquiry’s 2003 final report will make no mention of this offer or other offers to hand over the files (see February 5, 1998; May 2000).
(It should be noted the report is heavily censored so this might be discussed in redacted sections.) Hamilton, the recipient of the letter, will become the Vice Chairman of the 9/11 Commission. The Commission’s 2004 final report will fail mention Sudan’s offers and will fail to mention the direct involvement of the Commission’s Vice Chairman in these matters. [Vanity Fair, 1/2002; ABC News, 2/20/2002]
Entity Tags: Sandy Berger, Tim Carney, Osama bin Laden, Mansoor Ijaz, Lee Hamilton, Bob Graham, Al-Qaeda, Madeleine Albright, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Omar Al-Bashir
Category Tags: Hunt for Bin Laden
Thank goodness you found that and posted it.
We’ll have to bookmark this thread for safekeeping.
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