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Student battles back from debilitating crash
San Diego Union Tribune ^ | 1/1/10 | Steve Liewer

Posted on 01/02/2010 1:38:55 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: floriduh voter
I hate to disagree about this, but I think we'll be reading his obituary soon. If anything, his athletic background increases the odds that he'll be denied the opportunity to recover from a brain injury. I hope I'm wrong, and his family is an exception. Odds are not in his favor.


US Olympic Snowboard Contender Seriously Hurt

161 posted on 01/03/2010 10:04:05 AM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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Pinged from Terri Dailies


162 posted on 01/03/2010 10:15:57 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Vermont Lt

It wasn’t directed at you. It was directed at the first name in the *To* field. I just courtesy pinged you to let you know that I was responding to another’s comment to you.

It’s my understanding that generally, the first name is who the comment is directed to, and the other names are courtesy pings wither because they were mentioned by name, or the poster thought the person might have some interest in the comment.

Also, the comment in italics wasn’t yours, so that’s another way of knowing who the comment was addressed to.

My point to the other FReeper was that Terri did not *pass* which usually implies dying of natural causes, not as a result of being starved and dehydrated to death on a judge’s order as desired by the unfaithful spouse.


163 posted on 01/03/2010 12:38:21 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: BykrBayb

Post 144 - good find! Husband Michael Schiavo says brain stimulator was a success!!!!


164 posted on 01/03/2010 12:40:17 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: BykrBayb; floriduh voter

I hope they give him enough time.

We recently had a family friend be in a car accident where she suffered a brain injury. Then her friend crawled out of what was left of the car (which isn’t much, I’ve seen it) she checked our friend’s vitals and she wasn’t breathing. The girl thought she was dead.

She was in a medically induced coma and came out of it on her own, weeks before they expected. There’s not a thing wrong with her but some scars from the surgeries.

The body has an amazing ability to heal, if given the opportunity.

Even Christopher Reeves was making medical history with his recuperation. Because he had the money, he got the finest rehab money could buy and his nerves started healing. Apparently, what he did really shook up what the medical community had believed about rehab for spinal cord injuries.


165 posted on 01/03/2010 12:44:34 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: floriduh voter; wagglebee; BykrBayb; little jeremiah

I have such a problem with the deathbots who are so eager to kill people.

Especially those who call themselves *Christians* and hold to that position. You’d think that someone who claimed the name of Christ would see more value in life than to treat it as disposable.


166 posted on 01/03/2010 12:47:57 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; floriduh voter; BykrBayb; little jeremiah
Especially those who call themselves *Christians* and hold to that position. You’d think that someone who claimed the name of Christ would see more value in life than to treat it as disposable.

Jesus Christ specifically addressed this issue and even made a point to speak about the right to food and water:

31 And when the Son of man shall come in his majesty, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit upon the seat of his majesty. 32 And all nations shall be gathered together before him, and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats: 33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left. 34 Then shall the king say to them that shall be on his right hand: Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in:

36 Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me. 37 Then shall the just answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, and fed thee; thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38 And when did we see thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and covered thee? 39 Or when did we see thee sick or in prison, and came to thee? 40 And the king answering, shall say to them: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me.

41 Then he shall say to them also that shall be on his left hand: Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry, and you gave me not to eat: I was thirsty, and you gave me not to drink. 43 I was a stranger, and you took me not in: naked, and you covered me not: sick and in prison, and you did not visit me. 44 Then they also shall answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to thee? 45 Then he shall answer them, saying: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it not to one of these least, neither did you do it to me.

46 And these shall go into everlasting punishment: but the just, into life everlasting.
-- Matthew 25:31-46

167 posted on 01/03/2010 12:54:05 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: metmom

A very old friend was in a car crash years ago and sustained such terrible injuries he was in a coma for weeks - maybe even two or three months, can’t remember. Not a medically induced coma. I told his story on FR some years ago. His wife refused to allow them to pull the plug. She prayed a lot about him and sat by his side for weeks, reading out loud.

He finally came out of the coma and was able to say these words:

“Thank you”.

They said then that he would be a “vegetable”, wouldn’t walk, etc.

He is now talking, walking, doing some work around the house. He is very impaired compared to how he was before (part of his brain was destroyed in the accident) but he has undergone tremendous progress due to his own determination and the love and care of his family.

He also had a lot of character changes that he needed to go through and his troubles and the love of his wife and family have made him a changed man - for the better.

I am so sickened by the attitude that helpless people should be killed - or it’s the “government interfering”. When it is obvious that making the government interfere to be able to kill is the real story.


168 posted on 01/03/2010 1:37:00 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: wagglebee

Ouch.....


169 posted on 01/03/2010 2:26:42 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: little jeremiah

It’s especially sad when it’s the husband who wanted to kill her could have her legally murdered after his first failed attempt.

Not only does he get to have her killed, he has no legal repercussions, matter of fact, the same government that should have prosecuted him for a crime is the one he got to do the dirty deed.

And to think that there on trolls on FR who advocate and applaud that very thing.


170 posted on 01/03/2010 2:30:29 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

It seems pretty straight forward, if a person neglects the sick, starves and dehydrates the hungry and thirsty then they WILL go to Hell.


171 posted on 01/03/2010 2:30:29 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

I never thought of those verses in light of caring for the debilitated that way.

That’s a great application of that principle.

Christlike love is about serving others, not serving self.


172 posted on 01/03/2010 2:32:41 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; BykrBayb
I never thought of those verses in light of caring for the debilitated that way.

A few years ago one of the ghouls was going on and on about how it was "playing God" to give a person food and water, it hit me like a ton of bricks that our Lord said the EXACT OPPOSITE.

I believe that this passage indicates that healthcare IS a right; however, the concept of "rights" has been lost due to the left redefining terms. I right is something that the government cannot TAKE AWAY, it DOES NOT mean that the government must provide it. I think a lot of the criticism of the Catholic Church's position on healthcare comes from a misunderstanding of what a right actually is.

173 posted on 01/03/2010 2:41:10 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

It does kind of lay to rest the idea that providing food and water is extraordinary measures.


174 posted on 01/03/2010 5:38:07 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Simple logic would dictate that “extraordinary measures” would only include those things that a healthy person does not need to live (e.g. a ventilator), because NOBODY can live without food and water they must be considered BASIC NECESSITIES of life.


175 posted on 01/03/2010 5:53:43 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: metmom
Christlike love is about serving others, not serving self.

I thought that was obvious to everyone, but some of our visitors clearly don't get it.

176 posted on 01/04/2010 12:51:58 AM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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