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Palin Rising
Andrew Breitbart's Big Government ^ | December 27, 2009 | Matt Patterson

Posted on 12/27/2009 10:40:42 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: okie01

The difference is Reagan was out of office because his term ended in 1975. Reagan served his two terms in California. He took a hell of a lot of heat in Sacramento too. He fought through all of it. He was battle tested. He then did the ultimate act of proving toughness by taking on Gerald Ford in the 1976 primaries and almost winning them.

So don’t even try to compare her stepping down to Ronald Reagan because Ronald Wilson Reagan never backed down from anything.


81 posted on 12/27/2009 2:07:01 PM PST by AzaleaCity5691
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think DeMint has been great, and he was outstanding on the Honduras issue, but due to the name recogniton matter you bring up, he’d be better suited as the VP candidate.


82 posted on 12/27/2009 2:13:09 PM PST by Canedawg (Merry Christmas)
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To: SoCalPol

No I’m from Alabama where politicians are under investigations and ethics complaints all the time. And I have lived in New Orleans before where this is also the case. And 99.999999% of the time when there is smoke there is fire on those ethics cases.

So no, given that my experience is that when politicians are investigated there is usually something there I can’t see why she is all of the sudden so different from the ones I’ve seen investigated my whole life.


83 posted on 12/27/2009 2:14:43 PM PST by AzaleaCity5691
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To: AzaleaCity5691

With all due respect to Ronald, was he ever the target of a constant stream of bogus charges that threatened to put him and his family into bankruptcy, or which made it more and more difficult to do the job he was elected for?


84 posted on 12/27/2009 2:18:06 PM PST by Jacob Kell
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To: AzaleaCity5691

You have lived in the South. It is a different world outside of your circle.

I have been in many states and relatives in NY., NJ, Ohio
and other states.

I have traveled in Europe and spent time in East Germany in 1983.

I live in San Diego with over 3 million population. Largest concentration of military, defense contractors, major area for Telecommunications and bio medical research., etc, etc.

The terrotists who flew the plane into the Pentagon lived 6 miles from me here and their Imam here, al-Awlaki was later the Imam for the killer at Ft. Hood.

We have a huge European population, over 35,000 Iraqis with 400 a month arriving here.
other Middle East pop., Horn of Africa, Russian, etc.
San Diego has 5 Congressmen with 3 great Conservative Republicans, Marine Col. Hunter, Issa, and Bilbray.

You have kept yourself in a narrow homogenous world and not even wanting to read the truth are keeping yourself in ignorance.


85 posted on 12/27/2009 2:21:01 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: AzaleaCity5691
"It might also be a good time to point out that Alaska has a socialist system of wealth redistribution whereby taxes levied on companies are returned to Alaskan citizens in the form of a free government check.

Actually, the system is more capitalist than socialist. The money comes from the sale of oil drawn from State lands.

When Alaska became a state we (that's us, the citizens of the U.S.) promised the citizens of Alaska that we'd give them all those zillions of acres of frozen land except for military bases and National Parks. Then oil was discovered and - just like when gold was discovered in the Black Hills of South Dakota and we lied to the indians, we lied to the Alaskans and kept most of that land.

Wellll, we gave 'em some of it, parts we hadn't found any oil under. Somebody screwed up though and there WAS oil under some of that land . . . Actually, quite a lot of oil. Since the land belonged to the people of the State of Alaska the oil does too and they get the money from it.

Sure, the oil companies are taxed but that money goes to build airports, schools, an occasional highway (there aren't many of them up there) and other conveniences that we take for granted.

All that is just one more reason I don't complain much when Alaskans seem to be getting a bigger cut of the Fed pie than states in the lower 48. We screwed them over so badly a paltry "Bridge to Nowhere" or so amounts to little more than a mint on the pillow. Any who think otherwise need to start getting their information from somewhere besides the MSM.

86 posted on 12/27/2009 2:26:02 PM PST by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: SoCalPol

I have been in almost every state on business and out of the country on said business.

And the South is not “homogenous” by any means. If you had lived in the South you’d know this.

And I know all about San Diego. Pete Wilson was from San Diego. I personally happen to live in the city where Jeff Sessions was U.S. Attorney for 12 years and where he prosecuted a good portion of our city’s political leadership (including family friends to be honest). My city happens to be home to one of the nation’s most important ports, it is a major aerospace center and if Northrup wins the tanker deal we will be the city where those tankers are constructed.

And you obfuscate on San Diego’s population a bit. The population of San Diego is 1.28 million. Now, when you add the suburbs it goes up to 3 million. Now, if we are going to use that definition then my city of 200,000 suddenly goes up to a population of 600,000. And if you want to argue that the county just to the west of the metro and the county just to the east of the metro should be counted as part of us then that number suddenly jumps to around 1.2 million. But statistics can be twisted to mean anything.

And speaking of terrorists, Omar Hammami happened to hail from our metro area. He lived in one of our richest suburbs.

So if we’re going to talk about ignorance, we need to talk about this supposition that living in the South somehow means one can’t be worldly, be urbane, etc. And my preference for Haley Barbour is based primarily on the fact that I saw him in action during Katrina (something I had to file an insurance claim for) and have watched how he has governed Mississippi since he took office. Something that’s easy for me to do as Mississippi is 30 minutes from my house and we get Mississippi political coverage.


87 posted on 12/27/2009 2:30:43 PM PST by AzaleaCity5691
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To: AzaleaCity5691

“No I’m from Alabama where politicians are under investigations and ethics complaints all the time. And I have lived in New Orleans before where this is also the case. And 99.999999% of the time when there is smoke there is fire on those ethics cases.”

Yes, but she beat the real corrupt politicians in Alaska. Google “Corrupt Bastards Club”, for example. Also, you may not be aware of the Machivellian mindset of the Left. Plus quite a few of those charges were brought by a nutcase named Andree McLeod who might best be described as a political gadfly. That is to say - Likes to see her name in the paper.

Known locally as the “Falafel Lady” she got her start filing complaints agint the Muni (Anchorage) becuase she was not allowed to open an “ethnic” food cart business. She finally got to open, but had to meet all of the rules.

Here is more info about Andree:

http://alaskapride.blogspot.com/2009/05/anchorage-ethics-queen-andree-mcleod.html


88 posted on 12/27/2009 2:31:02 PM PST by Jacob Kell
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To: AzaleaCity5691

On the Frivolous charges, not only there was no smoke, but from known left wing operatives. All the charges where tossed.

A good friend who is a claims rep with the Co. Attys sees this all the time.
The lowest of dirt file claims to destroy people with lies or try to get money.


89 posted on 12/27/2009 2:32:02 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: AzaleaCity5691
What would we be saying about Palin if she were Sam Palin and not Sarah Palin? What would we be saying about her if she looked like Hillary Clinton and not like someone who could be on desperate housewifes? I for one would be saying 'that sounds like a conservative to me'. Your mileage may vary.
90 posted on 12/27/2009 2:37:17 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (No apologies.)
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To: AzaleaCity5691

Sorry but you really are being wilfully ignorant and obtuse. Had you bothered to become more informed you would know that all of the ethics charges have been dismissed. In other words they had no merit.

Too bad Riley can’t multi-task. I guess that’s just a female gift.

You have abjectly failed to address a key issue in my earlier posts so let me put it this way to you: Do you accept that Gov Palin was being personally bankrupted and the State of Alaska forced into unplanned and unnecessary time and expense - yes or no? Based on your latest response I’d say you don’t but I’ll give you another shot.

Don’t care about Alaska’s wealth distribution system - irrelevant to our conversation. Stay on topic please.


91 posted on 12/27/2009 2:37:24 PM PST by sarah fan UK
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To: AzaleaCity5691

County of San Diego is 3.2 Million.

You are still in a narrow world where if your don’t
want the facts you don’t have to read them,
just spew out lies, hate and think that beats the truth.


92 posted on 12/27/2009 2:38:39 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: AzaleaCity5691

With the exceptions of Calvin Coolidge and James Polk, there has never been a great president who did not have a commanding personality or an aura about them. Even Ike rode to the WH on a cult of personality. The one person who gained the WH on the strengths of his alleged abilities as a technician was Hoover, and look how that turned out.


93 posted on 12/27/2009 2:38:52 PM PST by Lou Budvis (She never bankrupted Alaska or bowed to royalty.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It will be something and I can't wait. I'm sick of the mamby-pamby and his cronies currently in Our House.

We need someone that is strong on defense and supportive of our military AND our country!

94 posted on 12/27/2009 2:40:13 PM PST by CAluvdubya (Palin 2012...YOU BETCHA!.)
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To: AzaleaCity5691
So no, given that my experience is that when politicians are investigated there is usually something there I can’t see why she is all of the sudden so different from the ones I’ve seen investigated my whole life.

Know any Southern politicians that have had ethics complaints filed against them filed by an anonymous coward using the name of a soap opera character? For accepting a box of chocolates? For appearing in a picture holding a dead fish? For having a member of her staff travel with her (on McCain's nickel) during the campaign to help her continue her duties as governor?

That's just a few examples of the kind of crap Palin had to put up with and pay out of her own pocket to defend.

Get a clue.

95 posted on 12/27/2009 2:42:21 PM PST by Al B. (Sarah Palin: Government "can't make you happy or healthy or wealthy or wise".)
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To: AzaleaCity5691

I love the South.

But even relatively conservative white male (’good old boy’)Southern Republican governors aren’t going to be elected President. Good ol’ boy white male Southern DEMOCRAT governors make up for it by getting twice the shot, going against type and being able to claim conservative values while being part of the Democrat clan—er, club.


96 posted on 12/27/2009 2:43:31 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

we hear her called Madam President alot already....


97 posted on 12/27/2009 2:44:12 PM PST by The Wizard (I support Madam President, the only President in America today)
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To: central_va

I think Palin/DeMint has a better chance! :)


98 posted on 12/27/2009 2:47:23 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: SoCalPol

Being from the South, one reason I moved to San Diego was because it was smaller and slower than my hometown.


99 posted on 12/27/2009 2:49:24 PM PST by ansel12 (anti SoCon. Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative loser.)
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To: Senormechanico

I’d rather have Ted Nugent in the Senate to offset that loudmouthed Bore Franken.

Now THAT would be total fun!


100 posted on 12/27/2009 2:50:12 PM PST by Ronin
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